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Did Pirelli Change Compounds?

On the BPP/Track Pack cars, the Pirellis are notoriously short lasting. When I bought my car, I was told I would get 10k out of them, and that's what I got.

On my 2nd set, bought carefully to be sure they were the MO tires, I've gotten 20k and they still have plenty of tread depth left.

Did Pirelli have enough complaints from Mustang and Mercedes owners that they changed rubber compounds to make them last longer?


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I doubt it.

I bought my 2011 in late 2010 and I got almost 25,000 miles out of mine.

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I doubt it.

I bought my 2011 in late 2010 and I got almost 25,000 miles out of mine.
You have a Brembo car?

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Yes.
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I have an early 2011 GT and have 14000 miles on mine, they still look brand new,never even had to rotate them yet!
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Yes.
Then there's no doubt that Pirelli has done different compound versions of the MO tires. Everyone I know of with a Brembo car got around 10k out of their first set, pretty standard.

Do you do almost all freeway driving?

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I have an early 2011 GT and have 14000 miles on mine, they still look brand new,never even had to rotate them yet!
Brembo car?

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Huh, weird you mentioned that

I don't have a Brembo car and my Pirelli's are the all seasons, and the OEM's on my wife's 2012 didn't last a year (right near 16k miles).


She brought the car in and got the tires replaced with another set of P-Nero Zero's (much to my chagrin). It's been just over a year and a half and a little more 10k miles since then and strangely enough, the tires still look good.

The P-Nero Zero's on my 2014 still look good, 2800 miles is not enough to make a dent even in these tires.


Still, Michelin Pilot Sports are going on both cars when replacement time comes around, and I have made sure my wife has been briefed well in advance this time (lol) (thats me getting knocked through the door, not her, by the way)


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Do you do almost all freeway driving?
Not freeway driving but a lot of 40-55 mph highway commuting. There were, however, several long 1st through 3rd gear burnouts done in the early days of owning the car so they did get some abuse.
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So, I asked the same question on another Mustang forum, and I'm getting very different numbers. It seems Pirelli has made different compounds through the years for the MO OEM tires.

Weird, I would think they would be more consistent.

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Here is a simple answer to your question. Yes Pirelli has different tread wear ratings on the P Zero tires. A Brembo car has a 220 rating which will wear out fast and the non Brembo cars have a 400 rating which will last a bit longer. I have had both versions.

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Here is a simple answer to your question. Yes Pirelli has different tread wear ratings on the P Zero tires. A Brembo car has a 220 rating which will wear out fast and the non Brembo cars have a 400 rating which will last a bit longer. I have had both versions.
That's not the question I raised. I asked specifically about the Brembo PP/Track Pack Pirelli MO (Mercedes Original) OEM tires that come on the cars from the factory.

The mileage people have gotten out of them is all over the map. So with the exact same tires, Pirelli has changed the compound over the years. And I don't remember where, but I read something to that effect somewhere in the last year or two.

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13k on my Pzeros. Still look good.


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I got 25,000 miles out of my P-Zeros on my Performance Package V6. Same tire and I did not drive it easy.

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I replaced my P-Zeros at 7800 miles (non-Brembo) and stuffed them back in the attic so I don't have to look at them....just plain hideous tires for a DD. My new set are Firestone Firehawks, and even though they have a softer sidewall, their ride quality is an enormous improvement over the P-Nero's. The Firehawks are so smooth I barely feel the highway pavement, and the tire noise, almost no-existent. I'm sure the P-Nero's have their place, but since I'm not a track hound, they are of no use to me.

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