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I meant the vinyl piece. For us who had stOne cloth.


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I've never had a reason to try removing mine. It looks like they should be changeable though. You may have to glue the new ones on though? I have a friend with stone interior and he had the dealer upgrade his seats to black leather. They left all the trim pieces in stone and in my opinion looks quite out of place. Especially on a black car.


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Unfortunately I can't view the link here at work, but I'd recommend going through the same source that like 10+ of our members went through, which was an ebay link... I believe through Lance Cunningham Ford (If I remember correctly).

And I ended up not using hog clamps, I went with strong nylon ties and it has been great thus far.
Heads up on the hog rings vs zip ties. I recently found out that Ford calls for 2 hog rings in each location on the front upper covers. So there are 2 bars on each upper cover with 6 locations to put hog rings. That's 12 rings in each upper cover.

The reason is the side airbag. In a side impact when the airbag deploys it looks for the weakest point on the seat to deploy through. In a typical scenario that is the special threading and inserts along the side of the seat cover. While it is the quickest route out, the breakaway seams aren't necessarily weak. They're strong enough to hold if only one hog ring is used in each location which would then divert the airbag through the cover towards the occupants back.

Just wanted to throw that out there as a potential safety issue with using plastic zip ties. Zip ties are relatively strong but not as strong as 2 steel hog rings.


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Heads up on the hog rings vs zip ties. I recently found out that Ford calls for 2 hog rings in each location on the front upper covers. So there are 2 bars on each upper cover with 6 locations to put hog rings. That's 12 rings in each upper cover.

The reason is the side airbag. In a side impact when the airbag deploys it looks for the weakest point on the seat to deploy through. In a typical scenario that is the special threading and inserts along the side of the seat cover. While it is the quickest route out, the breakaway seams aren't necessarily weak. They're strong enough to hold if only one hog ring is used in each location which would then divert the airbag through the cover towards the occupants back.

Just wanted to throw that out there as a potential safety issue with using plastic zip ties. Zip ties are relatively strong but not as strong as 2 steel hog rings.
Holy Crap! That is some good advice right there. I guess the seats come back out and some extra hog rings or ties will be added.

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Holy Crap! That is some good advice right there. I guess the seats come back out and some extra hog rings or ties will be added.
Yeah... screw that lol, I'll just stick with my nylon ties and hope for the best. lol....

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Are hog rings too complicated for you?

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Yeah... screw that lol, I'll just stick with my nylon ties and hope for the best. lol....
I probably would too if the installation was already done. I just remembered this thread when I heard the reason for the double hog rings. I didn't want one of you guys to end up in an automatic wheel chair though drooling on yourself because of a small side impact.

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Are hog rings too complicated for you?
I think he's more or less talking about the whole upper cover. He'd need to remove both front seats, then the upper covers. I bet he could do it in 1-2 hours now that he's done it now though.


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I think he's more or less talking about the whole upper cover. He'd need to remove both front seats, then the upper covers. I bet he could do it in 1-2 hours now that he's done it now though.
1-2 hours, a $4 hog ring tool and 2 cents worth of rings is cheap insurance in my book. Some guys don't take safety seriously, probably because they've never been in an accident of seen the effects of one.

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2 years ago I was in a direct head on collission at 70 MPH and ruined my back for life (totaled my scion TC in the process), hence why I went from being a 210 lb OX benching nearly 400 pounds, to the 240 pounds I now weigh (benching is not relevant to anything, just making a point here).. I just can't lift anymore, so I am well aware of intelligent safetey.

Hog rings are a joke as long as you have a hog ring clamp, if I was able to re-do the entire interior of my car I think I can handle hog rings... the only reason I didn't use them in the first place is the 3 stores I went to either didn't carry them, or were sold out, so I said fuk this and went with nylon ties. The airbag unit is located in a place where I don't feel it will make much of a difference, regardless of the research.. the unit doesn't actually attach to the hog ring bars, I handled the unit directly even though your not really supposed to, the wiring goes down through the fabric to the bottom of the seat, where it connects directly to the floor board wiring (not that this is really important...)

Not to mention, in my 70 MPH car crash, the airbags never even went off (hard to believe, but I promise it's true)... my car went directly under the car I hit and while my engine bay, windshield, steering colum etc were completely destroyed, my bumper didn't even have a scratch, so after a 70 MPH crash with the airbags failing to deploy, I say fuk it.

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Not to make light of your situation but it was a ricer. I don't care what Consumer Reports says Japanese cars just aren't made as well as American cars. Back in the 70's when they starting selling them like hot cakes I felt that way and I still do. The air bag system was probably defective.

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