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The actual engine fit might happen, the turbos are low mounted making the package kinda wide which wouldn't be a problem on the F150 but may be a problem on the narrower Mustang platform, not sure it would clear the frame rails and strut towers.

I was really referring to the electronics, you would have to run the engine on the truck computer and then tie that into the Mustang body electronics, things have come a long way since the A9L / A9P computer days, pulse width modulation, multiple TCC lockups, it takes tuners several attempts to get shift pattern correct on a car that has been out for 3 years already, I would think it would take an electronice genius to get that package to work. Easier to turbo the 3.7, I built my kit from scratch over a few weekends, rough tuned in a few hours, made more HP than the 3.5 did with under 13 psi (444 rear wheel)


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How so? The base engine for the F150 is the NA 3.7. The 6 spd. automatic tranny is standard in the F150...probably geared different though. But the truck tranny mates to both the 3.7 and the 3.5. If the Mustang's transmission is different from the truck's, it still bolts up to the 3.7 and might do the same on the 3.5.

If the 3.7 goes where the 3.5 goes, can't imagine the 3.5 Eco couldn't be made to fit in a Mustang...if you had the whole package.

Been ages since I did an engine swap though, so might be overlooking something. Educate me.



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OK, Kerrdog, thanks for taking the time. Never thought of the engine computer being tied in with the door locks and the trunk light. But, if that's how they're doing things now, it would be a tough swap.


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Found this article on the LMR website.

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Wow, this thread took off more than I imagined. At any rate, just few minutes ago I read a pdf posted in another thread (the 220 mile engine death thread) that answered pretty much all of my questions perfectly.

Looks like boosting the 3.7 is the way to go!

Having a forged crank is nice an all, but I wonder if anybody is going to be making better rods and pistons than what's stock. I'd hate to be the one to find the limit of the stockers under too much boost. Ported lower intake is apparently a must- 21% increase in air flow over stock according to the pdf.


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Super Six Motorsports - V6 products that make your life faster They have pistons and I think somewhere else I read about rods I can't remember where although.

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Wow, this thread took off more than I imagined. At any rate, just few minutes ago I read a pdf posted in another thread (the 220 mile engine death thread) that answered pretty much all of my questions perfectly.

Looks like boosting the 3.7 is the way to go!

Having a forged crank is nice an all, but I wonder if anybody is going to be making better rods and pistons than what's stock. I'd hate to be the one to find the limit of the stockers under too much boost. Ported lower intake is apparently a must- 21% increase in air flow over stock according to the pdf.


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As stated earlier MMR makes a full rotating assembly for the 3.7 Check out some of solobusa's threads. He blew his engine with a procharger and then started a build from a brand new short block for a turbo. He has his rotating assem. made by MMR
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As stated earlier MMR makes a full rotating assembly for the 3.7 Check out some of solobusa's threads. He blew his engine with a procharger and then started a build from a brand new short block for a turbo. He has his rotating assem. made by MMR
And to finish the story, he blew that motor up to. I don't know if he's performed any forensics to determine exactly how it happened, but I don't think it was the fault of the bottom end.

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And to finish the story, he blew that motor up to. I don't know if he's performed any forensics to determine exactly how it happened, but I don't think it was the fault of the bottom end.
That discouraging! Looks like making more than 450-500 reliable RWHP with these cars will be a challenge and a half. BUT...450-500 is more than enough! Personally I wouldn't want to settle for less than 425 at the wheels, but for now I can barely afford 300! :p
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If you already have a 2011+ 3.7L V6 and want more power, I agree with comments above suggesting you add a blower or turbo, just note the limits of the stock pistons and rods.

Putting 3.5L Ecoboost Turbo stuff onto your 3.7L is a costly mistake, way too many changes to make it worth the effort. Better to just transplant a 3.5L Ecoboost from a F150, but even that is a BIG complicated & expensive effort, way beyond most do-it-at-home car guys. The rear-face-of-block and the motor mounts are the same, but just about every other thing is different. It can be done, but really, there are many cheaper and easier ways to make your 3.7L make the same power.
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Even if you would be able to fit everything into our cars, a person would practically need a donor car and a fab shop to make this possible. The entire electrical system (wire harness, computer units, dash), longblock and hybrid drivetrain would have to be put in.

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If you already have a 2011+ 3.7L V6 and want more power, I agree with comments above suggesting you add a blower or turbo, just note the limits of the stock pistons and rods.

Putting 3.5L Ecoboost Turbo stuff onto your 3.7L is a costly mistake, way too many changes to make it worth the effort. Better to just transplant a 3.5L Ecoboost from a F150, but even that is a BIG complicated & expensive effort, way beyond most do-it-at-home car guys. The rear-face-of-block and the motor mounts are the same, but just about every other thing is different. It can be done, but really, there are many cheaper and easier ways to make your 3.7L make the same power.

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When the Ford Electronics pack comes out for the eco boost crate engines this may be a fairly easy swap. As it sits now its not. A 6 wire hook up is all that is needed. I believ next spring is when the control pack will be released.

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