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With 3.31 gears, a good tune, and intake and you can keep up with one to around 80. Than it starts training and by 120 it will put about 5 cars on you. How do I know?

My very good friend has a 3.31 geared 5.0. I've raced him a bunch of times at the strip and on the street from varying roll ons. His best time in the 1/8th mile on the same day as me was a [email protected] mph. My best time was a [email protected] mph. till around 60 cause of traction limitations I keep up than by 80 he has blown by me.

What I'm trying to say is that with bolt ons you can keep up, you'll extend your amount you keep up, maybe up to 100 you'll be able to keep up with full bolt ons, but all motor, the bigger engine will pull ahead hard past triple digits. Always.


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Basically what I said earlier. So, vs stock on the strip you could be as good, but with good brakes and tires on the right track or autocross circuit, you could not only keep up but win.

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Motor Trends 1/4th mile test track is a little down hill. Thats why they get better times than other mags. Just saying.........

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Wow you guys drive to fast. I have turned into that old guy that I use to give the finger to on the hwy because he was driving the speed limit.

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With 3.31 gears, a good tune, and intake and you can keep up with one to around 80. Than it starts training and by 120 it will put about 5 cars on you. How do I know?

My very good friend has a 3.31 geared 5.0. I've raced him a bunch of times at the strip and on the street from varying roll ons. His best time in the 1/8th mile on the same day as me was a [email protected] mph. My best time was a [email protected] mph. till around 60 cause of traction limitations I keep up than by 80 he has blown by me.

What I'm trying to say is that with bolt ons you can keep up, you'll extend your amount you keep up, maybe up to 100 you'll be able to keep up with full bolt ons, but all motor, the bigger engine will pull ahead hard past triple digits. Always.


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I think this is about right. I actually took on a 2012 Charger R/T at too high rate of speed 80-130(dumb on my part) and I kept up with him and actually was a head of him by a little bit and he has quite a bit more HP than mine with the V8. He was inching up on me at 125, just the V8 power. However in a real race 1/4 mile or just a 0-60 I'm already done with the victory and with my setup and take-off it's already over by the time he's able to hit that top end speed to over take me.

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If you want to be unique, build up he 3.7 (NA, FI, what have you). 100 HP is alot to make up. By the time you've built the 3.7 to be as fast as a 5.0, you're more than likely over the cost of a 5.0 (Nitrous would be an exception). If you set the performance bar high, expect to spend high!
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i really want my v6 to keep up with the 5.0's, i haven't came across one but i would like to know what it would take to keep up with one .. my current set up is aem cold air intake dynomax vt exhaust and bama 91r tune...im leaning on with long tubes and gearing , what do you guys think ?
This is definitely going to be a tough task. A bolt on V6 should run low-mid 13's and a bone stock 5.0 is going to run in the high 12's pretty easily. I ran a [email protected] in my 2011 GT bone stock. Now with some bolt ons and a sticky tire, my 2011 GT has blasted into the 11's pretty easily and traps 120 MPH in the 1/4 mile.

If you go with a set of Long tubes, Gears and a small Nitrous hit, you should be able to hang with a stock/minor bolt on 5.0! Keep up the great work with your build and feel free to hit me up if you have any questions or need some assistance in the near future.

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I think this is about right. I actually took on a 2012 Charger R/T at too high rate of speed 80-130(dumb on my part) and I kept up with him and actually was a head of him by a little bit and he has quite a bit more HP than mine with the V8. He was inching up on me at 125, just the V8 power. However in a real race 1/4 mile or just a 0-60 I'm already done with the victory and with my setup and take-off it's already over by the time he's able to hit that top end speed to over take me.
It is pretty much right on.... My v6 was so easy to run down the strip. I learned the hard way that the 5.0 has major traction issues in stock form. Drag radials or slicks combined with the appropriate suspension mods eliminate these issues. I have many videos on my youtube page om my 6 running 5.0's. I would always keep up til 80 unless it had sticky tires.... Then it had me from the gate.

My 5.0 ran a 12.9 @ 110 in 2300 DA. I have the m6 and 3.73 gears from the factory. This was when it was stock and running on the all-seasons.... With tires, a tune, and cat deletes I'll be knocking on 11's doors....

The ONLY reason I got rid of the 6 was that I was spending so much money on it. My goal was to do a single turbo setup until they started popping motors. After that I switched to the 5.0 because of an awesome deal (no loss on the trade) and economical reasons.. I have to agree, the 6 was much more rewarding when you see a nice timeslip.... But I do have an 11 second capable car with a factory warranty now....
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Pretty sure, Landtosea is using nitrous on his V6 (can't remember if its 100 or 125 shot), bolt ons, gears and tune. He is trapping 12.0 in the 1/4 and was having traction issues I thought, so with better traction high 11's car.
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Land to Seas car ran 12.09 @ 114, no traction issues really, in worse weather with some more mods he has dropped his 60 ft a couple tenths so as soon as we see some cool breezes it will run 11's.

I have seen 5.0 Mustangs with the window stickers still in the window run 12.7's @ 112, most magazines test on an unprepped track and being a professional driver doesn't mean you can drive a 1/4mil on radials quicker than anyone else.

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This is definitely going to be a tough task. A bolt on V6 should run low-mid 13's and a bone stock 5.0 is going to run in the high 12's pretty easily. I ran a [email protected] in my 2011 GT bone stock. Now with some bolt ons and a sticky tire, my 2011 GT has blasted into the 11's pretty easily and traps 120 MPH in the 1/4 mile.

If you go with a set of Long tubes, Gears and a small Nitrous hit, you should be able to hang with a stock/minor bolt on 5.0! Keep up the great work with your build and feel free to hit me up if you have any questions or need some assistance in the near future.

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it is going to be tough ! but hopefully i can find that out ! but if i were to put some nitrous on my car what would be better a dry set up or wet set up if thats the right term ?
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If you have to ask that, you really shouldn't run Nitrous. It's incredibly easy to wreck a motor if you're incorrectly using NOS.
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If you have to ask that, you really shouldn't run Nitrous.
Ummmmm........NO...

These forums do not exist for a bunch of know-it-all's to look down their noses at people. They're here for those who do not know to LEARN from those who do.

Sooner or later someone who knows their s**t will pipe in and answer this guy's very legitimate question. And he will learn. And eventually he will be happy he did, once he correctly applies the sound technical knowledge he gains from the experienced.

Kevinm, I don't know the answer to your question, but I'm almost certain kerrdogg and v6moddedmustang can properly address your concerns. Shoot them a PM.
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i really want my v6 to keep up with the 5.0's, i haven't came across one but i would like to know what it would take to keep up with one .. my current set up is aem cold air intake dynomax vt exhaust and bama 91r tune...im leaning on with long tubes and gearing , what do you guys think ?
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at the moment it wasnt in my budget ...im fine with my v6 tho but i was curious if its possible or not
The best I can tell you is to not set your sites on running down a 5.0 but to make your 3.7 the best possible machine you can. And if in doing so you manage to catch one, that would be great! Otherwise, don't sweat it.

But if you insist upon dipping into 5.0 territory, take some modding cues from z28th1s and FoolnYa. These guys are beating on their back doors in NA format.

Once you find the right combination of mod's, you might have so much fun with your V6 that none of that will be important anymore. I recently acquired an MPT tune that just made the rest of my bolt-on's go wild-fire! The car has been transformed. I have no need for the 5.0.

Find your contentment in the V6 or, as has been stated, move on to bigger and better things. Whatever you do, don't cave into anyone who busts your balls for wanting to be faster. That's the nature of who we are and what we do. Love what you got, 'cause there's ALWAYS someone bigger and badder out there!
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The best I can tell you is to not set your sites on running down a 5.0 but to make your 3.7 the best possible machine you can. And if in doing so you manage to catch one, that would be great! Otherwise, don't sweat it.

But if you insist upon dipping into 5.0 territory, take some modding cues from z28th1s and FoolnYa. These guys are beating on their back doors in NA format.

Once you find the right combination of mod's, you might have so much fun with your V6 that none of that will be important anymore. I recently acquired an MPT tune that just made the rest of my bolt-on's go wild-fire! The car has been transformed. I have no need for the 5.0.

Find your contentment in the V6 or, as has been stated, move on to bigger and better things. Whatever you do, don't cave into anyone who busts your balls for wanting to be faster. That's the nature of who we are and what we do. Love what you got, 'cause there's ALWAYS someone bigger and badder out there!
AMEN to what you said Brotha ! i appreciate it and i will continue on adding some bolt ons and see what i can do to satisfy my needs ..thanks for the contacts to i think ill get in touch with both of them so maybe they can help me out !
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AMEN to what you said Brotha ! i appreciate it and i will continue on adding some bolt ons and see what i can do to satisfy my needs ..thanks for the contacts to i think ill get in touch with both of them so maybe they can help me out !
Glad to hep anyway I can!! BTW, FoolnYA is my son and he will also be glad to help.

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