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I wonder if 1000 hp is possible with the 3.7?

Have you seen this 1000hp Hyundai Genesis?

Meet the 1,000bhp Hyundai Genesis - BBC Top Gear

Looks horrendously ugly, but they do manage to produce 1000hp from their 3.8 L V6. Pretty impressive I'd say, even though the motor is fully built.


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That's pretty impressive. AS it stands I'm not sure if the 3.7 can reach those power levels... solo was trying to get there and he gave up on his car. He was the closest to producing massive numbers out of the 3.7

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That's pretty impressive. AS it stands I'm not sure if the 3.7 can reach those power levels... solo was trying to get there and he gave up on his car. He was the closest to producing massive numbers out of the 3.7
Solo didn't go as far as these people did.

They completely rebuilt the Genesis engine adding all new pistons, connecting rods, and cam shaft.

Add to the Mustang 3.7 what they added to the Genesis and I bet we could get close.

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Its too bad that nobody has tried something like this with our cars at SEMA. You'd think some company out there would do it just to have the bragging rights or just simply for the challenge.

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If you have the money you can have the 3.7 engine block made of billet aluminum with full water jackets and nicasil liners, get a billet steel stroker crank made, titanium connecting rods and forged pistons, have billet cams made, titanium valve-train components and ported heads, a hogan sheet metal intake manifold and a pair of turbos that would probably blow 1600hp through the thing. The list of things required would be enormous, but you could end up with an engine that displaces over 4 liters and spins happily to 8500 rpm.

Of course you'd be talking $9,000 for just the engine block. Probably that much again for the rotating assembly. More than that for the turbo set up. Another $3500+ for the manifold. So on and so forth.

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Its too bad that nobody has tried something like this with our cars at SEMA. You'd think some company out there would do it just to have the bragging rights or just simply for the challenge.
I think people tend to gravitate more towards the middle to higher end of each model.

They'd prefer starting at the 5.0 or higher, just like this this Genesis. Theres not big companies taking on the 2.0t like they do the 3.8.

We do have CFM breaking into the 10s at least lol
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If you have the money you can have the 3.7 engine block made of billet aluminum with full water jackets and nicasil liners, get a billet steel stroker crank made, titanium connecting rods and forged pistons, have billet cams made, titanium valve-train components and ported heads, a hogan sheet metal intake manifold and a pair of turbos that would probably blow 1600hp through the thing. The list of things required would be enormous, but you could end up with an engine that displaces over 4 liters and spins happily to 8500 rpm.

Of course you'd be talking $9,000 for just the engine block. Probably that much again for the rotating assembly. More than that for the turbo set up. Another $3500+ for the manifold. So on and so forth.
That made me pop a woodie. Lol just kidding but that sounds like a monster of an engine.


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That made me pop a woodie. Lol just kidding but that sounds like a monster of an engine.


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Realistically this engine has at least the power to displacement capability of the coyote, unfortunately I don't have a hundred thousand dollars laying around to prove it lol

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I am shooting to start at 500 rwhp with my build, it has a new block, rods, pistons, ARP stuff, a form of sheet metal intake, perhaps with stock base, Jenvey base or complete custom base (waiting on that info), for the valve train we are upping spring pressure, the heads flow enough for my goals. Car is also getting a built auto and Circle D convertor and will be running on E85. My turbo maxes out right at 680 hp so that should give me enough headroom to get close to 600 rear wheel when the engine is broken in.

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oh, somewhat relevant, if anyone aims to hit the 1000hp mark with a procharger, the bracket assembly and procharger head units can be purchased individually at brute speed. The f1a should be basically a direct swap for fitting the bracket and piping. Anything bigger would require at least different intake and intercooler piping

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I actually like the looks of it.

As for parts for our cars we are getting close to having most all the parts needed to make this happen with our 3.7.

My car is going back together soon and we will be hitting it again. Hopefully third time is a charm. Lol

Heres a picture of my piston that kissed the valves. No big damage.
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And this time its not being built for the street. Im going to be running an open 3.5" downpipe and an open 1.5" wastegate. Boost will be in the 20# range on E85. We'll start looking at building an intake if we pop the stocker. I still dont think cams are needed to make 700-800 rwhp on the 3.7. Maybe if your looking for 1000rwhp but your getting close to the limits of the stock block at those levels.
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I have a customer that is a Jenvey dealer and can get the runners in a few days, my machinest has had my stock lower intake for three weeks now and says he has completed a base for a sheet metal intake, fuel rails are done, runner material is here, metal spinning shop we use is making some trumpets for me, and my sheet metal fab buddy is on board to fab a plenum. Intake will either be 100% sheet metal, Jenvey based with sheet metal plenum or worse case a sheet metal upper on the stock lower... Still waiting for rods and pistons, should have that update tomorrow.

I don't see any reason except perhaps block strength that would stop someone from making 1000 hp from a 3.7 Mustang 6, several GTR customers are approaching 1200, one guy stops by here on his way to the track and runs 9.30's, it's a crazy ride with the awd. I have no interest in it for a street car, have driven /owned a 1400 rwhp Mustang before and it has no place on the street, once you cross the 600 hp mark it gets real hard to find traction, things happen fast and curbs, walls & city buses are unforgiving .

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Good to see you back at it, Solo. Any particular reason you decided to give it another shot?

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