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tune or CAI? thoughts?

I'm not sure where to put my money first. I want to get a Bama tune, but also I'm scoping out the Airaid CAI. the CAI is obviously cheaper, but if i go with that, i have to wait quite a long time for a tune.

I'm leaning towards the tune..

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I can't see your signature from my tablet. If you have an auto do a tune. If you have a manual go for CAI.

If you plan to do more mods your going to need the tuner eventually most likely. So maybe its worth getting 1st regardless. Up to you in the end

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You can always get the tuner and CAI kit from American Muscle.

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Joe, he stated he only has enough money now to do one or the other. CAI will give you something to look at when you pop the hood and will yield some power until you can purchase your tuner.

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Well the CAI does look nicer under the hood, and yeild around a 12 horse gain, but the tuner would give you better gas mileage and also a preformance boost saving you money quicker for your CAI. Id go with the tuner.
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From what I have read I would go with the tune, hands down. You may decide to swap gears in the future and the tune would be needed anyway. Just remember if you do a tune, under warranty and you have problems the dealer can tell if you have been in the on board computer. So I would suspect any engine issues, or transmission issue if you have an auto might be tough to get work done under warranty.

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I say save a bit more and buy both. Get the tuner and buy a cheap ebay CAI. Those are like 50 bucks. No need for the 150+ CAI. Theyre pretty much all the same.

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I went just an AirRaid CAI, Throttle response and pickup in higher rpms are noticeable. The Tuner will yield the same max hp gains, BUT you get power throughout the powerband. Plus any other additional mods can be more effective with the tuner in the future. The CAI does sound nice though!

Not all CAIs will be the same, buy an ebay knock off and see what you get. I spent around $250 for my CAI, but the fitment is great and it looks great. Theres more that goes into a CAI then just a tube and air filter.
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hmm, i'm not about to throw a cheap ebay CAI into my car. I hear the aluminum piping just turns it into a "hot air intake" and i think that would be more of a compromise to my engine than running a tune. also referencing the warranty statement, i have a manual and i heard running a tune doesn't void your warranty? also the tuner has an option to set back to stock, so then how would the dealer presume it's been altered in any way?

How does the tuner increase MPG if it also increases performance? wouldn't MORE performance mean a decline in mpg?

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More performance doesn't always mean lower MPG. A CAI and tune allows the engine to run more efficiently increasing your MPG.

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hmm, i'm not about to throw a cheap ebay CAI into my car. I hear the aluminum piping just turns it into a "hot air intake" and i think that would be more of a compromise to my engine than running a tune. also referencing the warranty statement, i have a manual and i heard running a tune doesn't void your warranty? also the tuner has an option to set back to stock, so then how would the dealer presume it's been altered in any way?

How does the tuner increase MPG if it also increases performance? wouldn't MORE performance mean a decline in mpg?

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Ford doesn't differentiate between manual and autos when it comes to their position on warranty claims on tuned cars. A tune for an auto car alters the transmission computer in addition to the engine computer, so you have more stuff for Ford to cry fowl on if you had a warranty issue.

If you were to have a major mechanical breakage in the drivetrain, Ford can scan the ECM and see that the system has been reflashed, even when you return to stock tuning. If you burn up a piston, Ford will likely blame the tune for altering fueling parameters and causing the issue.

If you are afraid of warranty issues, skip the tune for now and get the CAI. You will get some extra power at high rpm, improved throttle response down low, and extra groan when you get on it. Tuning will do more to increase power, and both work really well together.

You can make more power from an engine and it can be more efficient. You just can't use that extra power and expect to use less fuel.

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What about those cheap power chips that trick your EFI?

Here's one I found after a quick search: Ford Mustang

Maybe this has been addressed before on the Forum?

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I'm not sure where to put my money first. I want to get a Bama tune, but also I'm scoping out the Airaid CAI. the CAI is obviously cheaper, but if i go with that, i have to wait quite a long time for a tune.

I'm leaning towards the tune..

thoughts?
Wait, save your money and then get them both at the same time with a CAI/Tuner combo deal at American Muscle!

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I went just an AirRaid CAI, Throttle response and pickup in higher rpms are noticeable. The Tuner will yield the same max hp gains, BUT you get power throughout the powerband. Plus any other additional mods can be more effective with the tuner in the future. The CAI does sound nice though!

Not all CAIs will be the same, buy an ebay knock off and see what you get. I spent around $250 for my CAI, but the fitment is great and it looks great. Theres more that goes into a CAI then just a tube and air filter.
Isnt a cai JUST a filter air tube?

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Isnt a cai JUST a filter air tube?
Well that depends on the brand and construction...
Some are noting more than a straight tube with a cone filter. (I find it hard to call these "cold" air intakes)
Others use the stock ducting that grabs cooler air from the lower front of the grill to actually give it a chance to get colder denser air.
Main goal is to allow more volume of (hopefully cooler) air flow with less restriction than stock air box/filter...


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