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Ole Bu has been shredding up some competitors over there in Kuwait. I didn't realize he was running an MPT tune. Now I understand how he's been doing what he does!

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I been thinking of getting a diablo trinity tuner with bama but all this tlk of mpt tunes being way better is making me think otherwise. Maybe I should just get an sct tuner that way I can try both...


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To this day, I still feel like there is a big piece of the puzzle we are missing. How is it that MPT makes better tunes than bama right off the bat, no datalogging necessary, after bama has been doing this from the start with tons of testing and way more customers? MPT does all kinds of vehicles, yet bama specializes in our mustangs. Why does it take 15 revisions of a bama tune just to get close to MPT level performance? All signs and logic points to bama being the best mail order tuner, hands down. They have the experience, the testing, the money, and the huge customer base.

This leads me to believe bama thinks MPT's tuning style isn't safe for our car or something. Otherwise, why would they not tune balls to the wall like MPT?

To the OP, the fact that you still feel such a huge difference with a manual with MPT over a datalogged bama tune is incredible. How long did it take you to get the tune, and what all did you ask for in the comments? Did you call or use the internet form?
These are my thoughts exactly...

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Word of mouth and volume of sales is certainly what drew me to Bama, and great tunes and customer service are what kept me around for 3 years. No question they are the best in terms of sales volume and reputation. Questionable whether the 3.7 is their strong point. It is, after all, only one platform in the sea of platforms they specialize in. Could be they haven't quite mastered this one yet.

The long-term story on my particular MPT tune will be told if any engine lights/maintenance codes appear, or any strange noises emerge. Same with any tune. If anything pops up, I'll take it from there. So far I am pleased as punch!
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Yet another temptation to try a MPT tune..... I've been seeing on the SVT board that the Coyotes seem to be benefiting from their tunes the same way the 3.7's are.

I'm personally still sticking with Bama for now. After this last tune revision I can't complain at all. I figure I will surely get the MPT tune when I get the extra $75, just purely for comparisons sake. Both tunes, same track, same day. But for now, my next trip to the 1320 will be on a Bama tune.

Edit: Reading your post Cannonballer made me want to go drive my car, lmao! Love the passion/excitement you've always had about your car, especially now. Tuner aside, these damn manifolds have given the car a whole 'nother driving experience!
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I switched to MPT a couple months ago and feel it was the best $75 I spent. Like the OP said, they put all my other mods together and the car just wants to run. I too had several datalogs with Bama but my car still felt only minorly improved after ported manifolds and shorty headers. I really felt like there was something lacking and I was right.
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Well...I made the switch from Bama to MPT. Although I will miss the free tunes for life, and Bama worked diligently with data logs to help me take full advantage of my Lone Wolf Performance ported upper and lower intakes, BBK 73mm throttle body, and JLT CF CAI, it was MPT who pulled the rabbit out of the hat.

My pony is nothing short of an absolute beast now! Complete transformation!

1. Gobs of low-end and mid range torque that was not there before, and it continues all the way up.

2. Improved top end HP.

3. Crisp acceleration, almost as if the 19's were traded for smaller, lighter wheels and almost as if the driveshaft were traded for an aluminum piece. VERY responsive tune!

4. New traction problems now because of the added power...

Mild, but still enough that I have to re-learn the car. Traction control will remain on for now. Much more tire slippage on launch, and continued slippage throughout the gears at WOT. There's just that much more torque. I'm tempted to buy a UCA now, to supplement the LCA's. I need larger contact patch (wider tires) now, and probably a softer compound too.

5. She does not like to be civil anymore. 1st gear is nearly pointless, as I have to slip the clutch a bit more than I did before, if I want to "granny" away from a signal or a stop sign. She just wants to lurch forward and that's all there is to it. As master Yoda would say, "Do or do not. There is no try." That's the way 1st behaves now. As I said before, GOBS more low and mid range torque!

6. FUN like I've never had in this car before! It's been a few days and I still get a rush of adrenaline just driving to work.

I've read the praises of Steeda and Lund tunes, but honestly I do not see that either of those could top MPT by mail. Perhaps they could with enough data logging, but I am convinced they would have to have the car in person, to be able to fine tune it and dredge any additional power. The change is just that dramatic!

I do not regret spending $75 for an MPT tune one single bit!

Here it is, 4:17 AM and I am chomping at the bit to leave the house for work in a few hours! My adrenaline is pumping already. I truthfully had no idea this little pony had that much left in her.

Here's to you MPT!!!
And to you Lone Wolf!!!
And to you BBK!
And to you JLT!
And to you Shelby America!

Remember folks, it's not any one component, but the car as a whole. And man, MPT knows how to put it all together!
I'm glad to hear you're enjoying your new tune. Our friends over at MPT definitely write a powerful tune!

I'm glad to hear that we datalogged with you and did everything we could to offer you a safe and powerful tune for your Pony! I can get you in direct contact with our head tuning specialist who could definitely pull some more power and aggressiveness out of our Bama tune.

Let me know if you ever have any questions or would like some assistance.

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On the bright side where Bama is concerned, you are not losing any money, as I was on the free tunes for life program. You just don't have to worry about me being a pest! LOL! GREAT customer service though! I can't express that enough. You were always very prompt and attentive to my specific requests.

...And I still buy all my parts from AM!
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There's nothing wrong with AM/Bama. And just because MPT may get a little more power or whatever it is they do, doesn't meant heir tunes are unsafe. I've been running my MPT tune now for almost 8,000 miles. No codes, passed emissions testing, getting good MPGs etc.
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On the bright side where Bama is concerned, you are not losing any money, as I was on the free tunes for life program. You just don't have to worry about me being a pest! LOL! GREAT customer service though! I can't express that enough. You were always very prompt and attentive to my specific requests.

...And I still buy all my parts from AM!
No kidding, best customer service for a car site I have ever ran into. I'm probably going to go with a staggered look in 2014 and will be getting the same wheel I currently have, but 18x10 size in the rear from you guys in the future. So even though a few of us changed tunes, doesn't mean we want shy away from still getting parts and services from you gents. Can we get even more discounts for every time we plug American Muscle.

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im actually about to buy a tune ... so which one should i get? its a daily driver and i dont want to do anything that would break the car
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Well...I made the switch from Bama to MPT. Although I will miss the free tunes for life, and Bama worked diligently with data logs to help me take full advantage of my Lone Wolf Performance ported upper and lower intakes, BBK 73mm throttle body, and JLT CF CAI, it was MPT who pulled the rabbit out of the hat.

My pony is nothing short of an absolute beast now! Complete transformation!

1. Gobs of low-end and mid range torque that was not there before, and it continues all the way up.

2. Improved top end HP.

3. Crisp acceleration, almost as if the 19's were traded for smaller, lighter wheels and almost as if the driveshaft were traded for an aluminum piece. VERY responsive tune!

4. New traction problems now because of the added power...

Mild, but still enough that I have to re-learn the car. Traction control will remain on for now. Much more tire slippage on launch, and continued slippage throughout the gears at WOT. There's just that much more torque. I'm tempted to buy a UCA now, to supplement the LCA's. I need larger contact patch (wider tires) now, and probably a softer compound too.

5. She does not like to be civil anymore. 1st gear is nearly pointless, as I have to slip the clutch a bit more than I did before, if I want to "granny" away from a signal or a stop sign. She just wants to lurch forward and that's all there is to it. As master Yoda would say, "Do or do not. There is no try." That's the way 1st behaves now. As I said before, GOBS more low and mid range torque!

6. FUN like I've never had in this car before! It's been a few days and I still get a rush of adrenaline just driving to work.

I've read the praises of Steeda and Lund tunes, but honestly I do not see that either of those could top MPT by mail. Perhaps they could with enough data logging, but I am convinced they would have to have the car in person, to be able to fine tune it and dredge any additional power. The change is just that dramatic!

I do not regret spending $75 for an MPT tune one single bit!

Here it is, 4:17 AM and I am chomping at the bit to leave the house for work in a few hours! My adrenaline is pumping already. I truthfully had no idea this little pony had that much left in her.

Here's to you MPT!!!
And to you Lone Wolf!!!
And to you BBK!
And to you JLT!
And to you Shelby America!

Remember folks, it's not any one component, but the car as a whole. And man, MPT knows how to put it all together!
You sir, and countless others have influenced who will be tuning my car. Thank you for your review

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LOL! My pleasure! For the past 3 years I've functioned 100% in the world of butt-dyno, and booty-drawers be happy!
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