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Ok you guys convinced me haha i just bought the tune along with some decal to fully get that MPT family feel haha! Guess im part of the family now :P

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The decal adds 20 HP on top of the tune, 75 HP more if you put it in the center of your windshield.

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Haha if only it was that easy... no the only reason I got it is cause around here there are alot of v6 mustangs I seee a good 8 in a day. So the decal will help tell pll what I'm running and so on. Don't hate on the decal Lol

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I'm the opposite. I prefer to let them wonder what the hell just happened to them lol.
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I love the idea of the whole sleeper thing but it's extremly hard when u have an exhaust that yells "I'm going to eat anything in my eat " oh roush.....
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im very curious to know what your afr's are with both of those tunes during hard runs. I see a lot of talk about various tunes lately, but none that mention what the afr's are during runs. its really important to know. like really really really really important

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Latest update-

Will be sending a datalog to Don at bama to see what he can do in order to make my bama tune surpass the MPT tune.

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Latest update-

Will be sending a datalog to Don at bama to see what he can do in order to make my bama tune surpass the MPT tune.
By all means, keep us updated.
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I'm interested too.
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Currently, I'm not pursuing datalogging with MPT for the fact that I've got performance mods left to put on my car that I feel they would charge me to re-tune for (Throttle body and full exhaust). I did however alert Mike of the issues with gear skipping. He seemed to think it was the torque converter lockup settings and not an actual gear change, but I know third gear was either skipped entirely for fourth gear, or the transmission immediately shifted into fourth right after shifting into third. I think if Don adds a good bit of timing, tweaks AFR a bit, and increases shift pressure, we can really be talking.

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Getting my shorty headers today and just emailed Bama. Not sure if anything will even need to be changed adding those but I'm just not that impressed with my 93R tune. It seems more tame compared to the 91H tune I had, though maybe, possibly, some of that could be attributed to the engine running smoother on the higher octane.

I guess I could try loading the 93H to see how I like it, but impressions after a week or so aren't very positive. I also haven't reset my adaptive throttle in a LONG time so that may be playing a part, but that won't actually affect power numbers, right?

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Getting my shorty headers today and just emailed Bama. Not sure if anything will even need to be changed adding those but I'm just not that impressed with my 93R tune. It seems more tame compared to the 91H tune I had, though maybe, possibly, some of that could be attributed to the engine running smoother on the higher octane.

I guess I could try loading the 93H to see how I like it, but impressions after a week or so aren't very positive. I also haven't reset my adaptive throttle in a LONG time so that may be playing a part, but that won't actually affect power numbers, right?
Update: Changed over to the 93H tune from the 93R and am much happier. Powerband is MUCH improved, though I do miss the throttle response. The 93R was amazingly smooth, for whatever reason, but the 93H reminds you that you have 6 cylinders firing. I do miss the throttle response but I'll definitely get some of that back by resetting the adaptive throttle. I strongly suggest that any disappointed by the 93R check out the 93H, it's completely different in the low-mid range with the top-end of the race tune.

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I do miss the throttle response but I'll definitely get some of that back by resetting the adaptive throttle.
Could you explain how you do this?

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So the latest development is as follows:

I did a datalog of the car running the MPT tune. I sent the datalog to Mike at MPT last Friday with my concerns asking him to tweak the transmission and update the tune to increase the gains. I have heard no response from MPT. It looks like I'm seeing a pattern here.

I also sent the datalog as well as the MPT tune file itself to bama. I asked them to tweak my 93H tune to surpass this MPT tune. I got a response the next day with a tune file. After running MPT for nearly a month and swapping back to a bama tune, I gotta say: Bama's tunes feel stock compared to MPT. The power and aggressiveness just can't touch MPT's tune. I can barely even feel the car accelerating below 3000 RPM. I'm pretty disappointed that I sent bama the MPT tune itself, the datalog of how it runs on my car, as well as detailed instructions on what I felt bama was lacking compared to MPT, and I basically got a repeat tune of what I've been getting from bama. I can't imagine it's that difficult for bama tuners to compare the numbers and settings for the bama tune and the MPT tune to see where MPT is more aggressive, then just put that on the bama tune and bump it up a notch.

Right now, I'm hoping Mike at MPT gets back to me and sends me a revised datalogged MPT tune. I'm not sure if bama just doesn't WANT to tune my car aggressively, or it's not within their ability to. I'd rather one tune from bama that is TOO aggressive and needs to be dialed back, than to have to go months and months of exchanging datalogs to get the car up to par.


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