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What's the hardest part of changing headers

I am thinking to get new shorty headers for my 2014 V6. Looking at the engine bay, I feel like it is going to be an easy job. I can access all the bolts of the exhaust manifold from above.

But from what I read, it easily take a day for average Joe, or 4 hours for an experienced mechanic. So what's the hardest part of installing shorty headers?


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When I installed my BBK longtubes, they almost fell right on. I mean this was the easiest header install, I have ever done.The only hard part was tightening the flange nuts.And it wasn't really hard, just took a bit of patience. Anyone who has trouble installing these headers on a 3.7, has never don't many header installations. The job took less that 6 hours start to finish which included installation of the catted mid pipe. And I took my time.
And by the way. The results were well worth it. The sound improved dramatically, and the power and torque improvement is instantly noticeable.


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I think the long tubes are easier to install than the short tubes. From what i've read, on short tubes space is tight to get wrenches and sockets on because of the tubes going up. My long tubes ( also like randeez11 said ) were very easy to do myself, i'm disabled and at the time of install (two years ago) i was 58 years old.

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Thank you for sharing your experiences. I just checked the price, long headers are about twice as expensive. That's a bummer.

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hardest part about the install is convincing my girl to do it for me so i can play games on my computer.

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The passenger side header is right up against the water line... Hard to get toe the front or rear two bolt without a swiveling (ball socket type)extension.... The driver side can be done in no time flat.

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I'd say figuring put what to do with the stock ones.
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The passenger side header is right up against the water line... Hard to get toe the front or rear two bolt without a swiveling (ball socket type)extension.... The driver side can be done in no time flat.
It was not that bad, take the 1 10mm bolt off and it moves out of the way.
The hardest part is breaking the mid pipe to exhaust manifold nuts loose, after that it is pretty easy, just takes time on the shorties to turn the nuts back on 1/3 of a turn at a time. 11 of the nuts can be reached from the top and one has to be tightened from the bottom.

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getting the stock manifolds off the stock x pipe.. that was a pain.. nothing is really hard. just time consuming. took me 7 hours on christmas day, this includes eating lunch and retuning it.

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Im really tempted to go wth the shorties but I haven't seen any dyno numbers or any improvements really broadcast yet. I think suspension will come first.

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Im really tempted to go wth the shorties but I haven't seen any dyno numbers or any improvements really broadcast yet. I think suspension will come first.
Give this some thought. The longtubes are very easy to install. Granted you will need a midpipe. ( I went with the high flow cats unit) I cant comment on improvements with the shorties, but I can tell you first hand that longtubes give a dramatic improvement in sound quality as well as a very noticeable torque increase. Before putting on the headers my car would barely break the tires loose from a dead stop ( mines an automatic with 3:31 gears) now it will lay a pretty good patch, if that what you want. And it definitely pulls much harder even in the lower 2500 to 3500 rpm range.
I know its a personal decision. Good luck.

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Give this some thought. The longtubes are very easy to install. Granted you will need a midpipe. ( I went with the high flow cats unit) I cant comment on improvements with the shorties, but I can tell you first hand that longtubes give a dramatic improvement in sound quality as well as a very noticeable torque increase. Before putting on the headers my car would barely break the tires loose from a dead stop ( mines an automatic with 3:31 gears) now it will lay a pretty good patch, if that what you want. And it definitely pulls much harder even in the lower 2500 to 3500 rpm range.
I know its a personal decision. Good luck.

Too bad I'm still under warranty or I would get the OR and get it tuned.

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It's such a PITA on a GT / GT500, especially without a lift.

I imagine it's easier on a V6, more room to work with

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Too bad I'm still under warranty or I would get the OR and get it tuned.
you can still get it tuned. just get a diablosport. it leaves absolutely zero footprint in the ecu when you flash back to stock. something people have tested hoping to call them out on it several times on svtp and bossmustangs

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Wow! Yeah that is cool.... I might check it out after I get everything fixed hahaha I would love long tubes and an or pipe


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