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JonR2006 - New 2V Build

I hope to clear some things up here and explain what I'm doing and why I'm doing it. Hopefully the Admins will keep this here as I like this section the most....

Long story bare with me.....

I wrecked my 2001, insurance totaled it out. God was looking out for me both physically and financially. I was not hurt, no one else got hit or hurt, Thank God...and...I updated the insurance policy on the car 3 weeks before wrecking it to full coverage. I don't believe in coincidence and I know God was watching out for me.

This left me with a wrecked 2001 supercharged mustang, good engine, good blower, built rear end, good tranny...etc...

I came across a 1987 Mustang GT in very good condition and I could not pass it up. Issue is, engine/tranny were not installed. The car is already setup for a Carb, drag racing, etc. It came with a tubular K member, longtubes, MSD ignition, T5, etc...but the engine was basically a stock 302 with 135k miles. My plan was to get some decent aluminum heads/cam/intake, throw it together and make 300wh and have fun with it. So, I bought AFR 185s, Trickflow Cam and started the process. We tore the engine down and this is where my plan went completely sideways......my dad was not comfortable with the condition of the rod bearings and overall sludge and lack of maintenance on the engine. On top of that, to run the 2.02 valves and the cam I bought I was going to have to flycut the pistons and even that was not going to guarantee proper clearance or even ensure the bottom end was going to hold to 6k RPMs consistently like I wanted it to. I returned the heads/cam and some other MISC parts I bought for the engine (ARP head bolts, head gaskets, etc).

So here I am, with a torn apart Fox body that was going to cost me another $3-4k+ to build a decent bottom end (probably more). The block still would have been the weak link (I was going to supercharge this pushrod at some point) which means I really would have needed to go to a boss block, which is $4-5K+ easy with a good bottom end. On top of this, not really having the money and not wanting to wait a few years to not have a mustang to drive brought me to final decision...

So...this will be a Mod swapped Fox with my modular drivetrain but carbuerated. I will eventually put the D1SC on with a blow through carb.

Below are the list of parts I have...I'm hoping to have it run by mid summer. I want it to run and have some fun with it before I plan out the blower install.

Low mileage(doesnt have more than 55k miles) 4.6L 2V, Comp Cams, .600 lift springs, GT500 followers, 4V oil pump, etc...
Edelbrock #2839 Intake combo. Comes with the Carb Edelbrock intake and MSD Mod 6 ignition box
Long Tubes from the 2001
Fuel system is already setup for a Carb (Holley Blue pump)
When I go blower, it will be updated with an Aeromotive regulator, return line and Holley Electric pump
Holley 650 DP (will upgrade to a Demon Blow through carb when I go blower)
UPR Tubular K member from my 2001
Front coil overs from the Fox
Fox length front control arms
Disc break setup/5 lug setup from the 2001
Built rear end and suspension from the 2001 (yes it's wider but I'll be running narrower stock Bullit rims so it should look fine)
79-93 Electric Fan setup (LMR)
Manual brake setup (LMR)
Flaming River Manual Rack
MM Steering shaft (LMR)
All manual guages
TR3650 from the 2001 (Will eventually go 4R70 with a manual valve body and decent stall down the road...I have one in my garage that I was planning to put in the 2001).
Subframe connectors
Stifflers T45/3650/T56 mount to use in the Fox (will be an issue with my longtubes but I'll figure that out)
No AC, no radio, basically not a fun street car that will be driven on the weekends, to the track and back, etc...

I plan documenting as much as possible as there is not too much out there on carbed 2Vs in general (at least not what I can find) and with it being in a Fox body. Pics of the Fox are attached. This should be fun, unique little project. I know I'll piss some hardcore fan boys off with the mod motor but at least it's not an LS. I'm not much over what insurance gave me for my 2001 which is always good. I'm basically re-using everything from the 2001 that I can.


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Fox Body Pics

Here are pics of the Fox Body. Needs some exterior TLC but what Fox doesn't...Overall it's a very nice car for the price I paid.

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Good, I like this project. Screw the pushrod hicks lol.

1) Why carb and not stay efi? Consistency, reliability and ease of tuning....
2) So you ended up hanging on to your D1 setup?


2001 GT Convertible
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All the usual bolt-on's /200 I6, C4

And a few Explorers too... 2008 4.0 XLT 4x2, 1996 XLT 5.0 4x2, 2003 Sport Trac XLT 4.0 4x4
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Good, I like this project. Screw the pushrod hicks lol.

1) Why carb and not stay efi? Consistency, reliability and ease of tuning....
2) So you ended up hanging on to your D1 setup?
Lol!

Going carb because I donít want to mess with all the wiring needed. I want to run the Fox dash and cluster. The interior is way too nice to mess with. The fuel tank is sumped and the fuel setup right now is already setup for a carb.

The wiring harness from the 2001 is trash.

The D1SC is in my basement. I took the ads down. I will run that blower on this setup.

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I have the 2001 rear end in the car, just need to go through and torque down all the control arm bolts. I have the font suspension done and torqued down (obviously will need an alignment), I have the steering rack in, MM steering shaft (which is an awesome piece by the way). Here is a pic of the K member and rack. Slowly making progress...

I just got a bunch of parts in yesterday. The Eddy Intake and Mod 6 box will be here next week.
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Slow but steady...

I have made some decent progress. Still slow but being a family man means this takes a back seat most of the time.

Getting the engine in was a huge pain. The MAC headers hit the chassis in a few places so I had to massage it in. Not fun! I ended up breaking my timing cover and valve covers because I got so freaking angry at one point. Engine is together with a new timing cover and new valve covers. I have the Mod 6 installed and partially wired in. Transmission is in with the Stifflers mount. Fit was pretty good for that mount.

Exhaust will have to be custom at this point since the longtubes and the tranny mount will be a problem.

Driveshaft needs to be connected still, carb needs to be installed. The main thing that needs to be done is the wiring. My dad will help that. I'm a tad confused on how to wire in the starter, alternator, and the electric cooling fans.
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Awesome work man. Are those the same headers you had in your new edge? Iíve often wondered why foxís need special headers for modular swaps.

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Rebuild in the works. New crank, 2013 Boss rods, srp .020 over flat top pistons with valve reliefs, 12:1 compression, ported pi heads, comp xe278ah cams.
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Awesome work man. Are those the same headers you had in your new edge? Iíve often wondered why foxís need special headers for modular swaps.
These are the same headers from my new edge. People run different headers becuase the driver side connection is very close to the transmission mount. I'll be doing a custom mid pipe to avoid this issue. A lot of people run the Bassani mid lengths but I don't have another $900 laying around for headers/midpipe.

I can't wait to get it running and then get the procharger on it.

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Here is the first video of this project. Iíll do most of the documenting through videos.


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1987 Mustang GT Hatchback - 2V Mod Swap In The Works

1997 Lincoln Town Car, PI Intake/Cams, Sofa-On-Wheels, "Fat Tony" we call it

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I got so pissed when I saw the way he was handling it with the fork lift.

I had to collect myself and remember that it was being crushed. I’m sorry things had to happen that way.

Either way, the Fox is awesome. It’s going to be a lot of fun when you get it rolling. I’m sitting here waiting for updates.
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Small update: I have the 3rd set of headers coming today. Hopefully this set does not interfere with the steering shaft.

Brake lines are in but need a few more fittings.

I have a custom aluminum driveshaft I bought used that will fit. The ford racing one from my 2001 is too long.

I have some wiring to do, finish up the brakes, get the carb on and throttle cable and see if it will fire up.

Probably another 6-8 weeks...

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Man, what headers are you running or have been trying?

You can’t just clearance the header around the shaft?

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Man, what headers are you running or have been trying?

You canít just clearance the header around the shaft?
So, the longtubes I wanted to run were MACs and I could have clearanced those but there were other issues at play that I did not want to solve for.

The Pypes (or BBK...same style) shorties did not work and could not have been clearanced.

The Ford Racing Ceramic coated shorties (basically stock manifolds but look a little better) work great. So right now, I have the driver side FRPP Header and the passenger side Pypes. I was not taking that passenger side off again.

My dad and I got some wiring done yesterday...we are moving along nicely. I'll have the exhaust done this week and then it's on to the wiring/fuel/carb/radiator/brakes/etc...I'll make another video soon.

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I haven't forgotton about my first mustang family here at AFM. Been very busy...Here is where I am with my new build. Debating on going full Holley EFI, or keeping it NA and doing trickflow heads and putting the supercharger on my Lincoln. Can't make mind up...Build is a slow and steady. Enjoy!


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Man, what headers are you running or have been trying?

You can’t just clearance the header around the shaft?
hey lwarrior can you give me some tips on tuning my build

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