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About to order new suspension

Hey guys, I'm about to order the Koni STR.T's and Vogtland lowering springs. I've heard from Bullitt that this is the best budget set up. I was wondering what anybody who is running this has to say (or if you could chime in, Bullitt ) and if there are any difficulties that anybody ran into while installing them. Also, I was wondering if I will need caster/camber plates or if they are just recommended. Thanks

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Get caster camber plates or your tires will wear irregular, then you will have perfect alignment!


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Optimally I would love to do that, but how do these work as a replacement? Eibach Mustang Pro-Alignment Camber Adjustment Camber Bolts (94-04 All) 5.81280K - Free Shipping!

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As long as your drop isn't more than 1.5" (and I don't think it will be with those springs) then you should be able to avoid using c/c plates. Regarding those bolts, I've heard/read bad things relating to safety concerns over those things, so maybe steer clear. If I can remember where I read such info on those bolts, I'll come back and post a link.


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I had to have CC Plates to get into spec, and to be honest, you'll want them. Everyone worries about the camber, but the caster is very important as well. Tell them when you have it aligned that you want as much caster as you can get in the alignment and then go drive down the highway and smile. The more caster you can get, the better. It makes the car so much more stable at speed.

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As long as your drop isn't more than 1.5" (and I don't think it will be with those springs) then you should be able to avoid using c/c plates. Regarding those bolts, I've heard/read bad things relating to safety concerns over those things, so maybe steer clear. If I can remember where I read such info on those bolts, I'll come back and post a link.
Okay great thanks for the advice!
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I had to have CC Plates to get into spec, and to be honest, you'll want them. Everyone worries about the camber, but the caster is very important as well. Tell them when you have it aligned that you want as much caster as you can get in the alignment and then go drive down the highway and smile. The more caster you can get, the better. It makes the car so much more stable at speed.
So if I can't afford the CC plates now, you would recommend getting them sometime in the future?

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I would recommend waiting to install everything until you get them. You can get CC Plates for $100 from UPR that work just fine.

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I would recommend waiting to install everything until you get them. You can get CC Plates for $100 from UPR that work just fine.
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I took Bullitt's advice in an old post he made titled "Getting a SN95 to Handle Using Mostly Stock parts".

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I took Bullitt's advice in an old post he made titled "Getting a SN95 to Handle Using Mostly Stock parts".

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I would've gone with the eibachs but I didn't want that big of a drop and I'm on a little bit of a tight budget so I like to save where I can lol. I'm saving up for the mm c/c plates and lca's for my next upgrades

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MM is good. I have it on for over 5 yrs.

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you don't NEED cc-plates to lower a car, but they are STRONGLY recommended. You get a better alignment, better handling, and more durability, and UPR's cc-plates start out at $117 with a lifetime guarantee when you use the AFM discount.

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Best suspension ever is MM. No doubt!

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Best suspension ever is MM. No doubt!
^^I got a kick out of this comment.

On Friday, I raced my buddy who has an SN95 with full MM suspension and my car is on UPR suspension. He's a couple hundred pounds lighter and he has over 100hp more than me. While he was spinning on the launch, I was in the next zip code.

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^^I got a kick out of this comment.

On Friday, I raced my buddy who has an SN95 with full MM suspension and my car is on UPR suspension. He's a couple hundred pounds lighter and he has over 100hp more than me. While he was spinning on the launch, I was in the next zip code.

Everybody has their favorites... I'm partial to UPR Products.
Bad driver. or bad set up or both...
UPR breaks everyday at the track beside being a cheap imitation to the MM products. Speak to any driver in American Iron and see what they say.


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