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post #1 of 7 (permalink) Old 02-01-2010 Thread Starter
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tr3650 in 1996 Mustang gt ?

i am looking at putting a tremec 3650 in my stang, since i need a new transmission, and my buddy happens to have one of these laying around for cheap. i know my transmission has the gear setup while his is the magnetic pick-up style sensor. do i just remove that magnetic pick-up and swap my gear/sensor onto that tailshaft ? i looked at the write-up on here but was unclear if they actually swap out from one tailshaft to the other, or if you have to remove the whole tailshaft from transmisison to put into the other transmission


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That is exactly what I am having to do with my new trans. I am swapping tail shafts, the guy who is helping me do the swap at his shop said he will have to press on my old gears I am pressuming from the old tailshaft to the new one. I don't know if this is because I have an auto but he talks really fast when he talks about cars and sometimes it's hard to understand but that's pretty much what I got out of it.

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The T3650 will not work on your 1996 because of the VSS. The T3650 did not come with a mechanical gear ring, therefore, none exist to be swapped in.

From 96-01.5 they are all T45's. The tail shaft housing and rings can be swapped among those years. From 96-98, it was a mechanical gear ring and from 99-01.5 are a magnetic reluctor ring.

Both the gear driven VSS and the magnetic VSS are two different sizes.

It might work if you change your cluster to a newer one and ???
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I would stick with the T45. The T3650 has a lot of problems and is a PITA.

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that sounds good ... i know you can use a speed-cal to correct the funky speedo reading when using the VSS from a 99+ style speedo, just didnt know if the speedometer gears could be swapped onto the 3650 shaft ... thanks for the headsup about the problems .. i will make sure and stay away from it then

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I have a car with this EXACT swap. Took out the t-45 and had a sweet deal on the t3650.

It was a while ago, but to switch the transmissions, you need to custom modify the crossmember (was a PITA, and it still isn't sitting 100%).

They are the exact same length and diameter, and you do NOT need to worry about changing the housing or shortening the driveshaft.

There is one other part needed, the Dallas Mustang EXTENDED RANGE speedcal. It is around $100 and it is made to convert the mechanical signal into an electrical one. You must call them once the car is hooked up with the speedcal and i believe it is Justin that you need to talk to about which switches to turn on after doing a series of tests.

The only issue I am having and have had since before the transmission swap is inoperative cruise control. I checked the actuator switches, they are all great. No fuses blown, new speed control amplifier installed, and nothing. If anyone can give me some guidelines as to what else to check it would be greatly appreciated!
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the tr3650 is a POS!!! way to many problems.. stick with a borg warner trans killa!!
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