Joined: Mar 2002
Location: San Diego County
GM is doing it right & Ford is making a mistake
Don't get me wrong....I will never own a GM and I love my Mustang, but Ford could learn something from GM in regards to engines.
I came on a stop like against a Cadillac CTS-V the other day. Now this wasn't really a race, because I didn't know what it was, but it had huge brakes on it and the lic plate said something about it being bad. So, we take off from the light and I step on it somewhat hard thinking it most likely had a NorthStar engine and I would play with it a little. To make a long story short, this thing left behind me pretty hard.
So, I get home thinking it was some tuner car and I do a search on the web. Come to find out it turns mid-13's stock.
GM basically took a Corvette and made into a Cadillac. They did the same thing with their GTO. These cars are serious contenders for most Mustangs, excluding the latest Cobra.
GM decided to keep and use the same engine for all their performance vehicles. They spent their time making it rock solid. It is simple in design, easy to mod, and has cubic inches.
I do think the 4.6 is a better engine. Smoother, and actually puts out more HP per cubic inch. But Ford is making some major mistakes in my opinion and it is flustrating me. If the 4.6L were stretched to 5.4L in displacement, the engine would be a killer to anything it came up against. Look at what extremes Ford and us Mustang enthusiasts are having to go too, so this engine will put out some serious HP. Not to mention the money costs.
Now I know some of you will say that there is not enough room in the engine compartment for a 5.4L. But the truth is, the current 4.6L can easily be stroked and bored by Ford in the factory to 5.4L without any dimenional changes externally.
The 4.6L is a weak engine. It could, for not much money on a Ford mass production line, be made to be bullet proof. Enough said on this subject.
So Ford leaves all this to the aftermarket. Well, the aftermarket is very slow in developing parts for the 4.6L (in all varieties) because it is a very complex design and it is very expensive. So, just when the aftermarket begins to come out with parts (we can afford), what does Ford do?.... they again change the design of the 2005 engines, making the after market start over again for performance parts. Did they bump the displacement? No! Did they bump the performance? Yes, but rather then significantly beefing up the engine, they carried over much of the same weakness, thus pushing the engine to 300hp and more or less reaching it's limit of HP reliably. So, if mustang enthusiasts want to reach 400hp with the engine, they will be on barrowed engine life. That is, when parts become available in a FEW years from now at a premium.
Meanwhile, GM just keeps cranking out performance cars off the cuff, with the same proven engine/performance. All of which are easily faster then the Mustang, and can be made to go even faster for cheap.
But from Fords perspective, they will sell a ton of Mustangs regardless, so who cares. SVT stuggles to stay alive and I know they do what they can to make their boss's see the light. But, they have much less power to make any influence as long as the Camaro is gone and sales boom. I believe in about 5 years, SVT will be history, and the Cobra or what ever they decide to make it, is mass produced. Afterall, it doesn't take a special division to slap on a SC and name it something from the past.
Just my opinion. Ford could learn something from GM on an enthusiasts level. But GM could learn something from Ford on how to sell performance cars and actually make money at it.
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