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2000 GT 4.6 engine ran without oil

I took my GT to the mechanic shop to see why the oil pressure drops after driving it for about ten minutes or so. The guy strained the oil out the night before and left the car in the shop. His apprentice started the car next morning cause he needed the space in garage and ran it for about 4 minutes without oil. The knocking came up and to cut the story short, he said I need a new crankshaft or remachined one. Engine still turns and runs rough with knocking sound. Engine was also rebuilt and had 70K on it. What is the best solution for me to change the crankshaft and possibly find more damage on pistons etc??? or just swap the engine. How much labour is involved in swapping this engine and what would be the best place to look for used engine? I am living in Canada so sometimes the shipping options from States don't work...any help is great!!!Thanks.

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I think the best thing would be to open the engine and inspect the damage.
Could be as simple as new bearings or the block could be damaged...pistons, crankshaft, rings, rods, etc..
Depending on that you have several options, but the one that would give you less trouble is buying a new or rebuilt short block (worst case scenario).

When you look for a donor 4.6, select one from a 2000 or newer model. Plenty of sources available: crown vics, F trucks, Mustangs, Explorers.


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I would be making the shop buy me a new engine...why would anyone drain oil and not put oil in it right after....It's a wonder why I avoid shops at all costs!

I would seriously try talking with the Owner/Manager and seeing what they can do. It's their fault! I would be requesting a new short block at least for my own peace of mind.

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First I would get form them in writing what happened so they can't change their story later. If it were me that shop would be building a new motor. They messed up bad and there's no way to tell how bad without disassembling the engine. I would not trust any part that contact a bearing for reuse. If they try to make you pay for anything contact an attorney.

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What i would do is tell the guy that drained it and forgot to put oil in it after his guy started it, would be to fix the problem with no charge sense hes the one that broke it. I mean i couldn't see why you would be ok with paying for it.
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Welcome to the site!! That shop is responsible for the damage to your engine and will have to fix it at no charge to you-might want to inform your lawyer and keep him on standby.....


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Lawsuits don't work the same way up here as in the US. Costs a fair bit of coin to even file a lawsuit, never mind try to win it.

Shop owner SHOULD be willing to work with you, avoid confrontational type attitudes, just tell them they should atleast cover labor. Sucks it happened.

Trust me guys, WAY different here than in the US as far as laws and liabilities.

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Lawsuits don't work the same way up here as in the US. Costs a fair bit of coin to even file a lawsuit, never mind try to win it.

Shop owner SHOULD be willing to work with you, avoid confrontational type attitudes, just tell them they should atleast cover labor. Sucks it happened.

Trust me guys, WAY different here than in the US as far as laws and liabilities.
Wow, so the shop could just shrug their shoulders and suggest the OP go pound sand, and that's it?


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Lawsuits don't work the same way up here as in the US. Costs a fair bit of coin to even file a lawsuit, never mind try to win it.

Shop owner SHOULD be willing to work with you, avoid confrontational type attitudes, just tell them they should atleast cover labor. Sucks it happened.

Trust me guys, WAY different here than in the US as far as laws and liabilities.
Doesn't really matter how lawsuits work, if you handle it professionally and make sure they understand that you aren't going to roll over, the did wrong and they are responsible to make it right. You can make more than enough noise and bad PR that it will be in their best interest to own up to their mistake.

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Rule 1 of oil changes if there's no oil leave it in the air on the lift......they should replace the entire engine free of charge IMO

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Rule 1 of oil changes if there's no oil leave it in the air on the lift......they should replace the entire engine free of charge IMO

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And most of us would agree 110% with common sense such as that. B1LK1's post however suggests that it's a scammer's paradise up there in the Great White North. Hopefully for the OP's sake, the shop is owned and managed by people who are concerned with doing the right thing.


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Yea I hope you get everything sorted out with those " techs" lol

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Not so much a scammer's paradise, it's just not easy to file a lawsuit. Costs a couple grand+ here in Ontario, but if you win the loser has to pay your legal fees as well.

You just gotta make sure you dot ALL your I's and cross every single solitary T. Stuff like this is he said she said in court.

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