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Need help with OBD fails from OBD Scanner

Hey all,
I am using an app on my android to read my 2001 GT OBD data, It's called Torque. I am having problems with the car. At low rpms say under 3000 the engine seems to bog down. You can smell fuel like there is a rich fuel problem. Fuel mileage is only at 15 on the highway. Engine is stock, 75,000 miles. Any help on what the fails are? The following is an output from Torque:
Test report:
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TID:$01 CID:$11
- Rich to Lean sensor threshold voltage(constant)
Min: 512
Test result value: 820
PASS
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TID:$01 CID:$21
- Rich to Lean sensor threshold voltage(constant)
Min: 512
Test result value: 852
PASS
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TID:$03 CID:$01
- Low sensor Voltage for switch time calculation
Min: 0
Test result value: 461
PASS
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TID:$03 CID:$02
- Low sensor Voltage for switch time calculation
Min: 0
Test result value: 461
PASS
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TID:$10 CID:$11
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Max: 51
Test result value: 49
PASS
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TID:$10 CID:$21
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Max: 51
Test result value: 49
PASS
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TID:$30 CID:$12
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Max: 512
Test result value: 65,535
FAIL

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TID:$31 CID:$01
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Min: 32
Test result value: 65,535
PASS
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TID:$41 CID:$11
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Min: 64,824
Test result value: 65,420
PASS
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TID:$41 CID:$12
-
Max: 712
Test result value: 65,420
FAIL

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TID:$45 CID:$20
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Max: 21,356
Test result value: 13,492
PASS
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TID:$4a CID:$30
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Min: 768
Test result value: 5,843
PASS
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TID:$4b CID:$30
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Max: 26,214
Test result value: 29,410
FAIL
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TID:$53 CID:$01
-
Test incomplete or dependant test failed
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TID:$53 CID:$02
-
Test incomplete or dependant test failed
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TID:$53 CID:$03
-
Test incomplete or dependant test failed
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TID:$53 CID:$04
-
Test incomplete or dependant test failed
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TID:$53 CID:$05
-
Test incomplete or dependant test failed
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TID:$53 CID:$06
-
Test incomplete or dependant test failed
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TID:$53 CID:$07
-
Test incomplete or dependant test failed
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TID:$53 CID:$08
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Test incomplete or dependant test failed
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TID:$53 CID:$09
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Max: 0
Test result value: 32,660
FAIL

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TID:$53 CID:$0a
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Max: 0
Test result value: 32,660
FAIL
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TID:$01 CID:$11
- Rich to Lean sensor threshold voltage(constant)
Min: 512
Test result value: 820
PASS
----
TID:$01 CID:$21
- Rich to Lean sensor threshold voltage(constant)
Min: 512
Test result value: 852
PASS
----
TID:$03 CID:$01
- Low sensor Voltage for switch time calculation
Min: 0
Test result value: 461
PASS
----
TID:$03 CID:$02
- Low sensor Voltage for switch time calculation
Min: 0
Test result value: 461
PASS
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TID:$10 CID:$11
-
Max: 51
Test result value: 49
PASS
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TID:$10 CID:$21
-
Max: 51
Test result value: 49
PASS
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TID:$30 CID:$12
-
Max: 512
Test result value: 65,535
FAIL
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TID:$31 CID:$01
-
Min: 32
Test result value: 65,535
PASS
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TID:$41 CID:$11
-
Min: 64,824
Test result value: 65,420
PASS
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TID:$41 CID:$12
-
Max: 712
Test result value: 65,420
FAIL
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TID:$45 CID:$20
-
Max: 21,356
Test result value: 13,500
PASS
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TID:$4a CID:$30
-
Min: 768
Test result value: 5,843
PASS
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TID:$4b CID:$30
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Max: 26,214
Test result value: 29,410
FAIL
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End of report.


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post #2 of 6 (permalink) Old 11-22-2013
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It shows that you have problems. What are your actual OBDII codes? Those are more valuable that trying to read this sheet. It says you have numerous failures, so pull the codes and let's see what you have for real problems, creating this readout.


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It shows that you have problems. What are your actual OBDII codes? Those are more valuable that trying to read this sheet. It says you have numerous failures, so pull the codes and let's see what you have for real problems, creating this readout.
These are OBDII codes, these codes are from a different area in the software. Somewhere there has to be a resource that explains what each value is looking at. The dime a dozen codes you want I can figure out. There are 2 codes popping P0420 & P0430. These are easy. I need to know how to understand the output I posted above!It is more detailed it seems.

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Just wondering. Have you looked at the Torque WIKI?

PluginDocumentation - Torque OBD2 Wiki

I suspect the TID and CID are the raw hex values for the ODB2 PID's. The hex value for the PID depends upon who made the car.

If this were my car, I would either get a scanner that decoded the PID's for you or pay for the add on that would do the decode.

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Just wondering. Have you looked at the Torque WIKI?

PluginDocumentation - Torque OBD2 Wiki

I suspect the TID and CID are the raw hex values for the ODB2 PID's. The hex value for the PID depends upon who made the car.

If this were my car, I would either get a scanner that decoded the PID's for you or pay for the add on that would do the decode.
Thanks for the help. Not much on the Torque site. I did find out these are called "Mode 6" codes. They are deciphered in the service manual for the car in question. Luckily I just purchased a 3 volume service manual for my 01 GT Convertible. Time to read lol.

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they are mode 6 values, most people don't know how to diagnos or use these. try this info
https://www.motorcraftservice.com/vd...f/obdsm109.pdf
some are oxygen sensor some egr, you'll have to look up the tid = test id cid = component id
the computer runs the tests and remembers the values to see if the component passes or fails

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