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1997 Mustang GT with Vortech supercharger oiling question

Okay, so I dont want to tap my pan if this thing (that V2SQ I got) ends up being a hunk-o-crap. I was trying to devise a secondary oiling system so it could get oil circulating through it, but be external of my engine.

What i have come up with is using an automotive fluid pump, an oil catch can, an oil cooler, and various fittings, and lines. The kit would be comprised of basic 5/8ths hose, and the pump is an in-line style that pumps oil at 8-12psi... About what an engine with a stock oil pump would run. The catch can would be used as an oil pan, with the return coming in the top port and the intake coming from the bottom. Everything would be run through the oil cooler mounted on the radiator to bring the oil to engine temperature in cold days, and keep it at normal operating temperature the rest of the time. Filtering it would be taken care of a screw-off (that's me) type oil filter. The entire system should be about 2 quarts, and having it run just the SC should be more then adequate.

So does this sound like it will work? Any thoughts?


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Sounds like a good idea. Question is where are you going to have room to mount all this extra equipment? But it should work.









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It should work, and it will probably end up being better for the motor and SC than Vortech's solution.

Its a LOT of trouble to go through for a doubtful blower, though.

Have you thought of having the SC checked out before going forward with the plan? I'd contact VorTech and see what they would charge to look it over (I know they offer a rebuild service, too).

It might be worth paying a few hundred bucks just for the peace of mind (and to avoid spending a week inventing a unique oiling system that will work and not vibrate off the car).

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Okay, so I dont want to tap my pan if this thing (that V2SQ I got) ends up being a hunk-o-crap. I was trying to devise a secondary oiling system so it could get oil circulating through it, but be external of my engine.

What i have come up with is using an automotive fluid pump, an oil catch can, an oil cooler, and various fittings, and lines. The kit would be comprised of basic 5/8ths hose, and the pump is an in-line style that pumps oil at 8-12psi... About what an engine with a stock oil pump would run. The catch can would be used as an oil pan, with the return coming in the top port and the intake coming from the bottom. Everything would be run through the oil cooler mounted on the radiator to bring the oil to engine temperature in cold days, and keep it at normal operating temperature the rest of the time. Filtering it would be taken care of a screw-off (that's me) type oil filter. The entire system should be about 2 quarts, and having it run just the SC should be more then adequate.

So does this sound like it will work? Any thoughts?

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There is no shaft play on the SC, which is good... Ill spooler her on up when I get a chance. It was supposedly rebuilt

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Yeah that sounds like a great plan for oiling the blower. However, I think you're going to want about 20psi of pressure. I'm not sure about NPI GT's, but oil cooling on the PI cars is done with a cooler located in the oil filter mounting location, so you may have to buy a separate cooler from Summit or another vendor.

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It is the same, and Vortech told me 8-10psi should be good... I guess we will see!

Thanks for all the input guys!

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Well if Vortech says 10psi is plenty then they should know.

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They said that it gets no more pressure from that from the oil sensor location under normal conditions anyway, and all it does is "mist" the gears with oil anyway. That is though 1/8th inch hose, I will be using 5/8ths hose... So more flow perhaps less pressure? I dono. It should be okay... Looks good on paper anyway.

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That is the setup a lot of turbo guys use. One word of advice, save yourself the money and get a oil fluid pump and catch can off a diesel truck (powerstroke or duramax). They will run you ~$30.

We used this setup on a twin turbo 350 I helped build.
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Thats awesome! Thats exactly what I am using (99 P.S.)

Ill have to take pics when everything comes together... I wasn't so sure this was doable, but after everyone support here it sounds like it might just work!

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Honestly, whats the point of goint through all that trouble??? If you have the pull the blower off for any reason, the tap can be plugged with a small bolt and thread sealent.
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Honestly, whats the point of goint through all that trouble??? If you have the pull the blower off for any reason, the tap can be plugged with a small bolt and thread sealent.
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O-Ridge-onality

other then the fact that other then the compressor, mounting bracket, and power pipe I didn't have anything else of the SC when it came in. makes it hard to tap things when you dont have parts to do so!

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Three words that people put into one

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other then the fact that other then the compressor, mounting bracket, and power pipe I didn't have anything else of the SC when it came in. makes it hard to tap things when you dont have parts to do so!
I'd hope you have an oil pan already, otherwise you have problems :hihi:
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I'd hope you have an oil pan already, otherwise you have problems :hihi:
uh what?
Oil pans come with the engine man, you know that! So does the 6 Boston Lagers I've had too.

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uh what?
Oil pans come with the engine man, you know that! So does the 6 Boston Lagers I've had too.
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makes it hard to tap things when you dont have parts to do so!
those lagers are working OT on you today...

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