Hey you see it your way, I see it mine.... To me stock is stock... That's what we have been talking about since the beginning. Like I, along with many other people have said.... If Ford wanted to they can tune their V6's to perform like a G35 Coupe but they didn't. That's what people are bitching about. Anybody can go out and mod but we're talking stock to stock and to me, stock GT V8 is very disappointing to the stock G35 coupe V6.