saw a bunch of Roush powered cars over the weekend. anywhere from 12s to 8's sec runs. So guess it all depends how much $$$ you plan on throwing at it and were you want to end up. my 14 is lightly modded (rear suspension work and N20 set up. 75 hp shot) getting me to 12.0's hoping with alittle more tuning and 150 hp shot to get to 11.50 or lower. Really need a shifter and drag radials but waiting til after my wife vacation later this month.