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post #56 of (permalink) Old 07-20-2014
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Originally Posted by NoVa5.0 View Post
No, they don't.

Quarter mile times don't sell ****, they're just bragging rights for retards on forums. Pick up a car brochure in a showroom and show me where they list the 1/4 mile times.

Here's your issue; you're caught up in the "tyranny of the forums" and think that forums, members, and their posts somehow represent average American people buying cars, which is a perceptual problem. You spend too much time on forums like this and think they represent reality.

Mustangs are small volume niche cars, as are Camaros and Challengers. The reality is that they appeal to a very small number of people, and most of those are pubescent boys that can't buy them.

So, when car magazines (which reach and influence 1,000,000 times more people than any forums) do tests of Mustangs against BMWs, Porsches and such, and the Mustang equals or betters such exotica, this creates a shift in what Mustangs are. They never have been muscle cars, and "Pony cars" was a made-up marketing term from the 1960s to pit Mustangs, Camaros, Firebirds, etc. against one another, and sell units. But in reality Mustangs are just sports cars with tiny back a 911s, DB9s, M3s, and many other sports cars that have small, useless rear seats.

Unless, you know, you think 911s, M3s and DB9s are "pony cars".

You think that no one gives a damn about handling and braking? Son, the entire reason why the 2011-2014 Mustang was successful, was due to magazine article back in 2010 in Road & Track where a Brembo PP Mustang was as good as a BMW M3 on a track. And I mean a real, actual track, with turns and everything. This was the article that caused Mustangs to be taken seriously, to be looked at as a genuine performance car, and not some rednecks straight-line stormer.

2011 BMW M3 Coupe vs. 2011 Ford Mustang GT Comparison - Motor Trend

So, once again. The biggest issue with Mustangs is their owners, who are stuck in the 1960s and 70s, and think Mustangs are muscle cars and are only good for going fast in a straight line, or think that "pony cars" is a real thing.

The Mustang was not 'succesful' because of a magazine article. The mustang was succesful because Ford gave the car a 100 hp bump over the previous year and didnt really increase price. The S197 is 'succesful' because of the 420 hp Coyote powering it.

If you lined up 100 11-14 GT owners, every single one will be able to tell you that their car has a 420 hp motor under the hood, maybe a handful will even know the C&D article was ever written.

By the way, 'success' is a subjective term. The Camaro outsells the Mustang and has been for quite a while.

2011 Mustang GT M6 3.31s

Matt HONEYCUTT Tune, Lethal Off-Road X, GT500 axlebacks, J&M LCAs, UPR UCA, Whiteline LCA relocation brackets, Eibach Pro-Kit Springs, Koni STR.T shocks/struts, GT500 strut mounts, SR Strut Tower Brace

Best 1/4 E/T (05/18/14 MIR - no tune, X-pipe, or UCA): 12.920 @ 109.40 mph (2.059 60ft)
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