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RMS power of the head unit, shaker system

I have the California Special with the Shaker audio system. I was thinking about getting a DVD navigation system for it, which claims 17w RMS and 52 peak. Would that be on par or better than the headunit output it comes with?

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The shaker 500 has separate amps in the car to run the speakers. The amp in the trunk is 4 channel and serves the 4 - 5x7 speakers (roughly 60 watts peak x 4) and the amp by the drivers kick pannel is also 4-channels serving the 2- dual voice coil 8" subs in each of the doors. These subs see about 60 watts peak per voice coil or 120 watts per speaker peak) Thus the peak rating of the entire system is about 480 watts - hence the Shaker 500 name. If you were to install a unit like you suggest, you would need to rewire the 4 - 5x7 speakers from that unit, and you would loose the 8" subs. There may be a kit out there, from someone like metra or scosche that can utilize your aftermaket head unit and convert the signal to a line in to the factory amps. Not something I would suggest doing.

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So basically it's all or nothing? As in, replace the whole system or none of it?
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So basically it's all or nothing? As in, replace the whole system or none of it?
Don't despair! There are changes to the stock system that will improve the sound.

I simply replaced 5x7's in the doors with Kenwood separates and enjoyed an immediate improvement in clarity etc.

The input allows you to run any source you can think of.

I'm not sure whether SYNC will link with a bluetooth GPS, my GPS isn't equipped with it.

Search the forums you will find lot's of info, IMHO there are enough good features with the Shaker500/SYNC setup to make it worthwhile modifying.

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Don't despair! There are changes to the stock system that will improve the sound.

I simply replaced 5x7's in the doors with Kenwood separates and enjoyed an immediate improvement in clarity etc.

The input allows you to run any source you can think of.

I'm not sure whether SYNC will link with a bluetooth GPS, my GPS isn't equipped with it.

Search the forums you will find lot's of info, IMHO there are enough good features with the Shaker500/SYNC setup to make it worthwhile modifying.
I agree completely, I maintained the shaker head unit/navi/sync/and blutooth, but have changed out all the speakers and added some subs and amps. The car sounds great, but still looks and functions the same as stock.

Unfortunately the OP is asking about installing an aftermarket Navi headunit, which is more difficult to integrate into the cars stock amps and speakers. It is very possible, but there are definite features of the shaker 500 (bluetooth / sync etc) that will be lost. So I tend to agree that installing an aftermarket navi headunit is pretty much an all or nothing kind of mod.

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I pretty much only care about adding a double din gps and DVD player that connects to an iPod. Perhaps a backup camera.

Microsoft sync is an absolute piece of **** as is most things Microsoft produces. The shuffle is pathetic as it continuously repeats the same songs. The voice activation is spotty at best. The only decent thing is the steering controls but honestly the cockpit is small enough that I usually use the radio controls anyhow. The menus are tedious to navigate. The car listed here for about 37500 and ive got a display equivalent to something i had in the 90s or early 2000s. My wifes mercedes was cheaper with a better radio. Overall the head unit is garbage.

So yeah I'm basically just trying to replace that head unit.
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I have the California Special with the Shaker audio system. I was thinking about getting a DVD navigation system for it, which claims 17w RMS and 52 peak. Would that be on par or better than the headunit output it comes with?
You asked a question and sought advice and it would seem you'd already made up your mind prior to asking....

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I pretty much only care about adding a double din gps and DVD player that connects to an iPod. Perhaps a backup camera.

Microsoft sync is an absolute piece of **** as is most things Microsoft produces. The shuffle is pathetic as it continuously repeats the same songs. The voice activation is spotty at best. The only decent thing is the steering controls but honestly the cockpit is small enough that I usually use the radio controls anyhow. The menus are tedious to navigate. The car listed here for about 37500 and ive got a display equivalent to something i had in the 90s or early 2000s. My wifes mercedes was cheaper with a better radio. Overall the head unit is garbage.

So yeah I'm basically just trying to replace that head unit.
I had a few issues initially however with SYNC but after having a good look at the support site
SYNC | Support | Find Manuals, Guides and Instructions for Android, iPhone, iPod, Zune, Bluetooth and USB, Get Software Updates and More | SYNC with MyFord Touch | Ford.com

and after one reset, all my SYNC features have performed almost perfectly for the last ten months. I have a $10 USB stick locked in the center console with around 4000 songs which I can verbally call-up with zero issues.

As for the backup cam, if you have an auto-dimming mirror, the Ford camera option hooks into that and you get a discrete display on the left hand side. 2012 and later Stangs require the nav package to get the display.

If you have truly given up and get that new head-unit installed, maybe you could share how it all works out.

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Grok,
Not trying to hi-jack the thread, but I have a 2012 GT/CS with the auto dimming mirror, are you saying the camera display should already be in that mirror and I "could" hook up a camera and it would/should work?
again, sorry about off topic but interested in this and you and GoT midlife CS seem to be well informed.

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Not trying to hi-jack the thread, but I have a 2012 GT/CS with the auto dimming mirror, are you saying the camera display should already be in that mirror and I "could" hook up a camera and it would/should work?
again, sorry about off topic but interested in this and you and GoT midlife CS seem to be well informed.
I don't believe so. When I was comparing builds between the 2011 and the 2012, the 2012 wanted the navigation package to display the rear camera view. The 2011 just needed the upgrade that included the heated seats, shaker 500, sync and auto-dimming mirror etc.... No Navigation required!

That and the incentives was why I picked the 2011 over 2012.

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Assuming you have the auto dimming....on the 2011...what would it cost to add the backup
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$300 at build time in Canada. The camera is in the spoiler, so I'm not sure if that's part of the price, best talk to your friendly dealer. Probably worth looking at.

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So basically it's all or nothing? As in, replace the whole system or none of it?
No,i don't think so.it can't replace the whole system
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I pretty much only care about adding a double din gps and DVD player that connects to an iPod. Perhaps a backup camera.

Microsoft sync is an absolute piece of **** as is most things Microsoft produces. The shuffle is pathetic as it continuously repeats the same songs. The voice activation is spotty at best. The only decent thing is the steering controls but honestly the cockpit is small enough that I usually use the radio controls anyhow. The menus are tedious to navigate. The car listed here for about 37500 and ive got a display equivalent to something i had in the 90s or early 2000s. My wifes mercedes was cheaper with a better radio. Overall the head unit is garbage.

So yeah I'm basically just trying to replace that head unit.

You think the display on head unit is bad on the Mustang? Get in a brand new 2012 Corvette, which is tens of thousands of dollars more than the Mustang! LOL!!! They are still using lcd display which looks like a casio watch from 1989!

The Mustang display is using LED and IMO looks GREAT!
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Assuming you have the auto dimming....on the 2011...what would it cost to add the backup
You can use this for steering wheel controls
Amazon.com: Metra Axxess ASWC Universal Steering Wheel Control Interface (Black): Automotive

And I would suggest doing so.. Not too complicated to install when taking out stock deck. And if you accept you are replacing the stock deck honestly job gets alot easier in some ways.. I personally go after a cheap 4/5 channel amp like MB Quart or Cadance

WoofersEtc.com - F100-5 - Cadence 5-Channel 1800 Watt High Power Amplifier

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WoofersEtc.com - ZRS-C8 - Cadence 2000W 5-Channel ZRS Type C Series High Powered Car Amplifier

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MB Quart ONX4.125 - 1000W RMS ONYX 4-Channel Car Amplifier/Amp

then run whatever speakers you want and whatever sub you want. Just remove what currently in the car. Then looking at one AMP kit and one AMP install.. Running RCAs back to AMP and then speaker wire to all the speakers.. Work yes.. Hard no.. Trying to mod the stock unit is a pain and wont sound as good.. then down the road if you want to install a processor in the mix you are processor ready.


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