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post #1 of 19 (permalink) Old 07-28-2018 Thread Starter
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I bought my '66 Stang in March instigated by my 16 y.o. Son. It's a 1966 San Jose car with T/E system. Pretty much a complete barn find. There are a few things missing but for the most part it's all there (original). We've been plugging away at it and managed to replace all the under carriage (upper/lower control arms, coil springs, perches, Front/rear shocks, leaf springs,bushings)", borgeson steering, KAR Mustang GT dual exhaust. We removed everything from the engine except the heads and intake and exhaust manifolds. Rebuilt the carb. R&Rd the oil pan and oil pump. New fuel pump, water pump, thermostat, hoses radiator, radiator shroud. Had the alternator, starter and power sterring pump rebuilt. Long story short, it PURRS so nice! Everything works and works well considering it hasn't been run (registered) since 1988!
We are very excited!
Next will be r&r rear brakes (turned drums today), install Kentucky Mustang front power disc brake conversion (ordered today), interior, paint and alignment. Then ready to drive!!!

SO EXCITED

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It's not original anymore.

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It's not original anymore.
Nope. But it sure runs and sounds good!!!
I like it better that way. Some of the original stuff is crap (Imo). I still have all the original stuff except the exhaust (which was shot) if someone ever wants to put it back that way.
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I've always tried to keep them original but the next classic one I do I'm going your route and make it more fun to drive.

Engine mods - all stock, trust me, wanna run??!!!
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Btw. I'm going to ruin the originality even more. My son wants to paint it black. It has dark red pony interior with white headliner so I think black will look good. Did the factory offer black in '66?
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Btw. I'm going to ruin the originality even more. My son wants to paint it black. It has dark red pony interior with white headliner so I think black will look good. Did the factory offer black in '66?
Paint code A Raven black, but this really doesnít bothers you because you are not going original so.. make it the way you like.!

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Btw. I'm going to ruin the originality even more. My son wants to paint it black. It has dark red pony interior with white headliner so I think black will look good. Did the factory offer black in '66?
Yes, we have a Raven Black factory car.
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Cool. Sounds good! Thanks,
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Welcome to the AFM Family! here is a pic of my '66 and yes she looks to be all original but she isn't.

She's still a #'s matching '66 (rebuilt trans) But.... she has repro fenders /different doors (off another '66) repro front bumper.

did the front disc conversion (she had drums all around) she still has the OEM power steering (rebuilt)

All I can tell you is to ENJOY your car and the time you spend with your son (My '66 has been a father/son project since 1991)
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Welcome to the AFM Family! here is a pic of my '66 and yes she looks to be all original but she isn't.

She's still a #'s matching '66 (rebuilt <acronym title="transmission"><acronym title="transmission">trans</acronym></acronym>) But.... she has repro fenders /different doors (off another '66) repro front bumper.

did the front disc conversion (she had drums all around) she still has the OEM power steering (rebuilt)

All I can tell you is to ENJOY your car and the time you spend with your son (My '66 has been a father/son project since 1991)

Thanks for the encouragement! She's beautiful!
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Original is cool, but there's so much you can do to make the car more enjoyable, without permanent ramifications. I have a "barn find" '65 coupe in Raven Black. I've lowered it, put in a T-5 trans, and disk brakes is next on the list... then to do something cool with the inline 6... hmm... Good luck with your project, and enjoy it.
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Well, hereís the latest. I had the alignment done by a local shop that was recommended. After inspecting and torquing everything down that I left loose and aligning the front end Iím told there is no return-ability in the steering and that they've isolated the problem to the Borgeson steering box. Iím not really sure how critical this is? When powering through a turn it starts to come back to center but ultimately I have to bring it to center myself. After reading reviews it appears this is a common issue with Borgeson. After calling them I was told to make sure the caster was set to 3-5 degrees. The shop adjusted the caster to 4 and 4.75 which didnít make any difference. I called Borgeson and they told me I could order a new box and theyíd credit me when they receive the old one. Iím hesitent to go to the trouble of that since it sounds inherent with Borgeson. They donít acknowlege the issue as being common. Any thoughts?

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Well, hereís the latest. I had the alignment done by a local shop that was recommended. After inspecting and torquing everything down that I left loose and aligning the front end Iím told there is no return-ability in the steering and that they've isolated the problem to the Borgeson steering box. Iím not really sure how critical this is? When powering through a turn it starts to come back to center but ultimately I have to bring it to center myself. After reading reviews it appears this is a common issue with Borgeson. After calling them I was told to make sure the caster was set to 3-5 degrees. The shop adjusted the caster to 4 and 4.75 which didnít make any difference. I called Borgeson and they told me I could order a new box and theyíd credit me when they receive the old one. Iím hesitent to go to the trouble of that since it sounds inherent with Borgeson. They donít acknowlege the issue as being common. Any thoughts?

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IMHO, although mechanically there is no damage/excessive wear being done, this is "not a good thing" from a variety of standpoints.....1) being an inexperienced driver who is shifting from a properly setup/responsive vehicle to one that doesn't (or vice versa)Ö.. secondly, from an emergency maneuvering aspect, this is not good......as an example.... when the rear of a car starts to come around either because of accel or braking, the steering must automatically follow and no matter what level of experience a diver has, they will typically allow the this action to occur and typically "enhance" the control to either eliminate or reduce the rotational impact...Ö a higher trained person such as a racer, trained emergency vehicle operator will be taught how and when to enhance this..... for the pro, not that big of a deal as long as they are expecting it...for the typical driver or beginner, IMHO, not acceptable.


In the event that an accident did occur and there was a resulting death or substantial life long injuries, it is almost guaranteed the vehicle will be inspected including the performance of critical components...Ö and IMHO, this would not be "a good thing".

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After talking with Borgeson cs a few more times the rep suggested the bushing at the end of the column might be binding with the shaft. I removed the bushing and reamed it out 1/16Ē which fixed the problem. I really like the Borgeson steering system even more now!
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I was never a fan of Borgeson boxes.

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