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When a Shelby isnt a Shelby: 2016 Shelby GT350

I received my April 2014 edition of Car and Driver the other day. This issue has the "25 cars worth waiting for" feature. Number 15 is the 2016 Ford Mustang Shelby GT350. C&D says this car is a creation of Ford's SVT group, not Shelby.

The article goes on to ask why Ford isn't going to name it a Cobra or Boss or Mach, C&D's answer- "because Ford can charge more for the Shelby name."

I've seen threads and posts on this site with people flaming others for their "Tribute" cars and others putting Shelby/Roush/Saleen badges on cars not built/massaged by said company. Now we can add Ford Motor Company to the list of poseurs. I really hope this turns out to be incorrect, but I wouldn't be surprised if Ford did this so they could charge more money for this model.


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I received my April 2014 edition of Car and Driver the other day. This issue has the "25 cars worth waiting for" feature. Number 15 is the 2016 Ford Mustang Shelby GT350. C&D says this car is a creation of Ford's SVT group, not Shelby.

The article goes on to ask why Ford isn't going to name it a Cobra or Boss or Mach, C&D's answer- "because Ford can charge more for the Shelby name."

I've seen threads and posts on this site with people flaming others for their "Tribute" cars and others putting Shelby/Roush/Saleen badges on cars not built/massaged by said company. Now we can add Ford Motor Company to the list of poseurs. I really hope this turns out to be incorrect, but I wouldn't be surprised if Ford did this so they could charge more money for this model.
I'm really kinda sad that Shelby America won't be producing them anymore. Glad I got to see a 2012 GT350 in person.

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I'm really kinda sad that Shelby America won't be producing them anymore. Glad I got to see a 2012 GT350 in person.

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Well, if the facts be known, In September 1967, 100% of Shelby GT350 production was moved to the A.O. Smith Company of Ionia, Michigan, under Ford control. Shelby American had substantially less involvement after this time….in essence they were paid for the use of their name…no more, no less. The components (recent production) that Shelby-America installed were off the shelf items, the suspension components were all manufactured by Eibach, Corona, California (readily available mail order), brakes were Brembo's, etc., the only thing unique to SA was the upholstery & dash plaque.

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I read the article and it did try and steer the audience but keep in mind this Shelby GT350 has likely been on the drawing books for 5+ years thus allowing for Shelby input.

A bit of speculation on C&D but 550 HP for 50k in that new chassis is a pretty damn good deal and should be a C7 killer I would hope. If it comes in with that power and performance it doesn't matter what they call it you will be paying the same price.

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Well, if the facts be known, In September 1967, 100% of Shelby GT350 production was moved to the A.O. Smith Company of Ionia, Michigan, under Ford control. Shelby American had substantially less involvement after this time….in essence they were paid for the use of their name…no more, no less. The components (recent production) that Shelby-America installed were off the shelf items, the suspension components were all manufactured by Eibach, Corona, California (readily available mail order), brakes were Brembo's, etc., the only thing unique to SA was the upholstery & dash plaque.
I know they didn't actually "produce" them, but instead did more like Rousch, Saleen and RTR. Didn't the newer GT350s have a Shelby VIN though?

I'd still love to have my 3.7 turned into a procharged Shelby GTS.

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Well, if the facts be known, In September 1967, 100% of Shelby GT350 production was moved to the A.O. Smith Company of Ionia, Michigan, under Ford control. Shelby American had substantially less involvement after this time….in essence they were paid for the use of their name…no more, no less. The components (recent production) that Shelby-America installed were off the shelf items, the suspension components were all manufactured by Eibach, Corona, California (readily available mail order), brakes were Brembo's, etc., the only thing unique to SA was the upholstery & dash plaque.
Exactly, all the "shelby american" parts on those cars were just rebadged parts from other manufacturers. The shelby brakes were baer or brembo, the caster/camber plates were maximum motorsports etc.

I dont really see this as a big deal, who knows if that "sells for more money" quote is true

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Exactly, all the "shelby american" parts on those cars were just rebadged parts from other manufacturers. The shelby brakes were baer or brembo, the caster/camber plates were maximum motorsports etc.

I dont really see this as a big deal, who knows if that "sells for more money" quote is true
I also don't think it is a big deal......FORD renamed the FORD 500 to the Taurus. Maybe they could call the new GT350 "Santa's Sleigh." Good name recognition. Even though Santa has never driven it and it isn't a sleigh, maybe people won't notice it and will pay more for it

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I won't get myself bogged down with all the semantics.... more important for me would be if the new GT350 can clearly produce significant high-performance results across all key categories.

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I also don't think it is a big deal......FORD renamed the FORD 500 to the Taurus. Maybe they could call the new GT350 "Santa's Sleigh." Good name recognition. Even though Santa has never driven it and it isn't a sleigh, maybe people won't notice it and will pay more for it
Just like the Shelby Focus...

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I won't get myself bogged down with all the semantics.... more important for me would be if the new GT350 can clearly produce significant high-performance results across all key categories.
+1 Don't care whether they call it a Shelby or not, as long as it performs better than the GT.

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Well, if the facts be known, In September 1967, 100% of Shelby GT350 production was moved to the A.O. Smith Company of Ionia, Michigan, under Ford control. Shelby American had substantially less involvement after this time….in essence they were paid for the use of their name…no more, no less. The components (recent production) that Shelby-America installed were off the shelf items, the suspension components were all manufactured by Eibach, Corona, California (readily available mail order), brakes were Brembo's, etc., the only thing unique to SA was the upholstery & dash plaque.
Good point...that's true. I think by '69 or so, Shelby had basically no involvement, and then in '70, the cars were basically just Ford getting rid of '69's and '69 parts that they already had.

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I received my April 2014 edition of Car and Driver the other day. This issue has the "25 cars worth waiting for" feature. Number 15 is the 2016 Ford Mustang Shelby GT350. C&D says this car is a creation of Ford's SVT group, not Shelby.

The article goes on to ask why Ford isn't going to name it a Cobra or Boss or Mach, C&D's answer- "because Ford can charge more for the Shelby name."

I've seen threads and posts on this site with people flaming others for their "Tribute" cars and others putting Shelby/Roush/Saleen badges on cars not built/massaged by said company. Now we can add Ford Motor Company to the list of poseurs. I really hope this turns out to be incorrect, but I wouldn't be surprised if Ford did this so they could charge more money for this model.
And it will feature automatic transmission.

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I received my April 2014 edition of Car and Driver the other day. This issue has the "25 cars worth waiting for" feature. Number 15 is the 2016 Ford Mustang Shelby GT350. C&D says this car is a creation of Ford's SVT group, not Shelby.

The article goes on to ask why Ford isn't going to name it a Cobra or Boss or Mach, C&D's answer- "because Ford can charge more for the Shelby name."

I've seen threads and posts on this site with people flaming others for their "Tribute" cars and others putting Shelby/Roush/Saleen badges on cars not built/massaged by said company. Now we can add Ford Motor Company to the list of poseurs. I really hope this turns out to be incorrect, but I wouldn't be surprised if Ford did this so they could charge more money for this model.
They were paid for their name. They did not have to sell Ford the name.

My only wish is that they had done a 2014 version of the Mach 1. I would have snatched that baby up in a heartbeat as long as it was more than just some decals.

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