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Eco Boost 2015s

Here's the thing about turbo motors; the after-market gets big power increases out of them, for not too much money.

I was just on Ford's 2015 configurator, and first spec'd out a 5.0 GT Premium/ Performance package car, with no additional options. It was just a hair under $40K. Then I spec'd out a 2.3L Premium with Eco Boost Performance package, and it's a hair under $32k.

I hope that those two cars get comparo'd soon. I'm thinking that the 2.3l Eco Boost might be the better performing car, with a few mods. Depends highly on the tires. I figure the 2.3Ls must be at least 200Lbs lighter than the 5.0s, with less weight over the front wheels, and closer to 50/50 weight distribution.

If the 2.3L motors can be bumped in power to 375 or so easily and cheaply, they might be better performing cars than the 5.0s


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They will defiantly be some fun, even my balless gen one 2.3 turbo is fun, but you sacrafice torque with losing all those cubes. Nothing twin 118mms can't solve


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Im excited to see what the eco boost can do from the factory. Even more so to see what the aftermarket can do. I really think the future is in smaller motors with boost. I will miss that V8 sound though.


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Livernois was getting 10-20 hp gains and 50-60 lb ft torque gains on the 2.0 eco fusion with just a tune.

They've also done some nice work with the Fiesta ST's 1.6 turbo as well.

More radical gains will depend on the size of the factory turbo unit. If people want extreme power they may have to do a swap.

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Here's the thing about turbo motors; the after-market gets big power increases out of them, for not too much money.

I was just on Ford's 2015 configurator, and first spec'd out a 5.0 GT Premium/ Performance package car, with no additional options. It was just a hair under $40K. Then I spec'd out a 2.3L Premium with Eco Boost Performance package, and it's a hair under $32k.

I hope that those two cars get comparo'd soon. I'm thinking that the 2.3l Eco Boost might be the better performing car, with a few mods. Depends highly on the tires. I figure the 2.3Ls must be at least 200Lbs lighter than the 5.0s, with less weight over the front wheels, and closer to 50/50 weight distribution.

If the 2.3L motors can be bumped in power to 375 or so easily and cheaply, they might be better performing cars than the 5.0s
I really think these will be fun cars. They have great power potential and as you pointed out, can be had at a considerable lower cost than the GT. I ultimately went with the 5.0, but I think that anyone who gets the Eco won't be disappointed.

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They will defiantly be some fun, even my balless gen one 2.3 turbo is fun, but you sacrafice torque with losing all those cubes.
Based on the numbers that have come out over the last few days it really isn't sacrificing much. 310 hp and 320 lb-ft is pretty much what the 05-10 4.6s were rated at.
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Based on the numbers that have come out over the last few days it really isn't sacrificing much. 310 hp and 320 lb-ft is pretty much what the 05-10 4.6s were rated at.
I was just comparing to the coyote 5.0.

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They will defiantly be some fun, even my balless gen one 2.3 turbo is fun, but you sacrafice torque with losing all those cubes. Nothing twin 118mms can't solve


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Turbo motors have come a long, looooooong way since your car. Turbo motors now have epic ****-tons of torque, at very low RPMs.

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Well I can't wait to see it , I'm excited for all the 2015 engines

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I REALLY wanna order a 2015...but can't decide between EcoBoost and GT without driving one. If I go with an EcoBoost would be a vert, GT would be a coupe. They are pretty close in price. Dealer says he STILL can't quote or order a vert. I'm worried if I wait till the spring, that the 50th anniv. appearance package will be phased out and really want a 2015 to have that.

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Everyone i know with a turbo had issues at some point.

Have they come along way over the last couple of years? I've never owned one myself just seen the $$$ in repairs dished out and steered clear of them.
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Dealer says he STILL can't quote or order a vert.
There's already a thread where a member has ordered a 2015 convertible.

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Everyone i know with a turbo had issues at some point.

Have they come along way over the last couple of years?
Yes, they have. Big technology and reliability enhancements, as well as much more power. Turbo cars now have more torque and a better power curve than NA cars.

Remember when turbo cars had boost lag and only made power high in the rev range? Ain't like that anymore.

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There's already a thread where a member has ordered a 2015 convertible.
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Yes..I've replied to that thread and showed it to the dealer. They showed me their order screens that won't allow them to place any orders for convertibles. The other member hasn't said if they actually have a DORA for that order. Maybe a case of the dealer "took" the order from him..but it's not officially placed in the system?
Either that or my dealer is doing something wrong. I'm still on the fence for EB vert or GT coupe. Don't think I could afford a GT vert, even with XPlan.

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Yes, they have. Big technology and reliability enhancements, as well as much more power. Turbo cars now have more torque and a better power curve than NA cars.

Remember when turbo cars had boost lag and only made power high in the rev range? Ain't like that anymore.
I drove the Ford Edge Ecoboost for a 10 day rental now that I think about it. No lag, but man was it weak. Probably too heavy of a vehicle for noticeable power.
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Yes, they have. Big technology and reliability enhancements, as well as much more power. Turbo cars now have more torque and a better power curve than NA cars.

Remember when turbo cars had boost lag and only made power high in the rev range? Ain't like that anymore.
I had a VW Jetta Wolfsberg Edition turbo.. That thing would eat my 2007 GT's lunch above 80mph. It pulled harder at 130 than it did at 70. It was crazy. Turbos have come a long way, and they've gotten reliable, powerful, and efficient. It mostly lies in the tuning and precision, which for those of you who remember, Chevrolet's Cross-Fire injection wasn't but a few years away from the Fox's turbos... both "cutting edge" of their time and known to be horrid now.

And as sad as it may sound, I almost went with a turbo diesel Jetta instead of another S197 to save money.


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