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Motor Trend--15 Camaro 1LE PP vs 15 Mustang GT PP--Randy Pobst

Good comparison review, however, Camaro 1LE takes home the win!!

Motor Trend Head to Head: 2015 Camaro 1LE vs. new 2015 Mustang 5.0 GT PP - Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums - Camaro5.com

Randy Pobst: "The Camaro is just plain more fun on a racetrack" and "Camaro is 90% of a Z28."


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As I've said in two other threads, the 1LE is a great car. In other comparisons the 1LE was significantly faster than even the Boss 302. No surprise that it still bested the 2015 Mustang.

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As I've said in two other threads, the 1LE is a great car. In other comparisons the 1LE was significantly faster than even the Boss 302. No surprise that it still bested the 2015 Mustang.
Your historic comparison data is useful. Randy Pobst really knows how to get the most out of a car on the track.

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2011 BMW M3 1:27.67
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Some of the times are interesting. I wonder how much of the difference in some of the times has to do with different equipment and how much have to do with weather and track conditions. i.e. Brembo GT being two full seconds slower than a Track Pack GT...
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Swing and a miss for the Mustang. Well thanks Ford for not making me want to sell my '13 for a '15.

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Your historic comparison data is useful. Randy Pobst really knows how to get the most out of a car on the track.

2013 Camaro 1LE 1:22.70
2014 Camaro 1LE 1:22.81
2015 Mustang GT Perf Pack 1:24.32
2013 Mustang GT Track Pack 1:25.77
2015 Mustang Ecoboost PP 1:27.65
2011 BMW M3 1:27.67
2011 Mustang GT Brembo 1:27.76
According to fast laps Randy did not post your last two times.

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My analysis is that the 15 Mustang carries the torch forward with some new features and technologies, along with refined engineering, but the package stops short of "groundbreaking" by not increasing performance to the degree necessary to stay up/eclipse the competition. For those reasons, among others, Ford doesn't offer marketable reasons for Mustang enthusiasts who own 11-14 Mustangs to trade up, especially the Shelby owners. The move to the 15 Mustang makes more sense for those who own older Mustangs (03+04 Terminator owners not withstanding) or are new to the Mustang arena.

For my situation, the 15 Mustang doesn't offer me one compelling reason to take a depreciation hit to trade into a 2015. Besides, I like my "simplified" interior better!

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According to fast laps Randy did not post your last two times.
According to Motor Trend he did.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOwSPccbzl4

Also looks like I typo'd the Ecoboost. Time was 1:27.85
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I am not too worried about it . . . since I drive on the Interstate every day, I am not exactly one of those people who arrives at the office with brake dust on his glasses.

I bought my car for the looks, acceleration, sound, and somewhat obnoxious attitude - all of which are loads of fun for someone who works at a consulting firm where the ride of choice is a Lexus.

Arguably, I could get all of those things with a Camaro, but I have always been partial to Mustangs. Plus it ticks off my die-hard Chevy disciple of a brother-in-law, haha

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I'm not very surprised. Seems like they we're aiming to improve the car itself with the 2015 rather than focus on it roasting the competition. Though, the Mustang fanboys are po'd about this. It really doesn't bother me.

It's kinda funny though. I'm reading on Mustang forums on the net and now everyone is saying "Well, the Mustang's interior is much better than the Camaro and a much nicer place to be so who cares"....reminds me of when the 11 GT kept up with the 11 M3 a few years ago and the BMW fanboys would use that argument to justify their car lol.

If anything, this is a good thing to me. It's going to wake Ford up for the 2016/2017 model.

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If anything, this is a good thing to me. It's going to wake Ford up for the 2016/2017 model.
+1 on this. I think the Mustang engineers are already working to ramp things up for 2016. The Pony Wars continue....

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+1 on this. I think the Mustang engineers are already working to ramp things up for 2016.
I think this is probably correct. I'm not dissatisfied with 435 hp, and it ended up being rated at exactly what I thought it would be rated, but with the changes that were made to the engine there surely has to be more on the table.

The old tri-power Corvette 427s were rated at 435 hp. Now, a little 302 has the same rating and probably gets three times the fuel economy. NOBODY should be complaining about that.

I think there is a good chance that consumers will see close to, if not more than, 450hp in GT trim within the next few years.

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It's an interesting world when 435hp isn't good enough......

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+1 on this. I think the Mustang engineers are already working to ramp things up for 2016. The Pony Wars continue....
I thought the last comparison would have been a wake up call.
2013 Chevrolet Camaro SS 1LE vs. 2013 Ford Mustang GT Track Pack - Motor Trend
Ford had ample time to prepare a GT that could take on the 1LE for roughly the same price

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The 2015 Mustang is faster in the 1/4 albeit a small margin. A win is a win. Everyting else the Mustang came in 2nd. Either way I will always be a Mustang guy...period. The Camaro is a great car and this time it beat the Stang. But also remember the Mustang is the one of the most modded cars with the aftermarket. It would not take too much $$ to be better.

But overall, competition makes both cars better for us. Detroit Muscle all the way!!


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