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post #1 of 10 (permalink) Old 02-18-2019 Thread Starter
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Is there anyone willing to share a copy of their installation invoice for a Ford Performance power pack 2, so I can use it to show my dealer that it does not take the 5 hours labor they quoted me to do the installation.
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You're never going to win in an argument with a dealer or shop over labor. Ever.

They go by listed rates. If their guys are good, of course they will spend less time with R&R than what's listed, and that helps them make more money! They'll know tricks and shortcuts.

But they'll still charge X number of hours labor, because that's what it shows in the dealer's info when they quote you. A dealer will almost always charge the listed rate, whether they have Fred the Wonder Mechanic do it (who knows his stuff and takes less than the rated time for every job) or Joebob the Moron (who takes longer than quoted). It's nothing personal. It averages out to be about what the listed rates show, when spread across all the customer cars they fix.

If you take your car to a Mom and Pop mechanic, they have a lot more discretion. If they're good, the labor costs will be low, and they earn repeat business because they're competent. Of course, there are plenty of shysters too, who will work just like the dealer, charging a listed rate, or even padding it a bit.

Your other option is to do the job yourself! Then you never have to fuss about labor rates. Of course, you do have to worry about voiding your warranty...

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Book time is what their going by doesn't matter if the tech can do it under book time


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What is the "performance pack 2" ?

It might be an easy do-it-yourself job or maybe not, depending on what is included.

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definetly a joke if book time is 5 hours to install tune and air intake. my understanding(I may be wrong) is any ASE certified shop can perform installation and ford performance will honor warranty if you submit shop invoice.

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It doesn’t matter how long it takes. only matters what the book says. The dealer would charge you what the book says if it takes less time. The dealer would charge you what it actually takes if it takes longer
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It is an east DIY but if an ASE tech or dealer does the install Ford performance warranties the drive train.

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I don't think that there is any "book" for installing Ford Performance parts. The dealer is going to charge what ever they can get away with. What is likely happening is they really don't want to get involved in doing the work but if someone is willing to bite for an exorbitant quote they will do it. Contractors do this all the time.

It should not take an hour to install. I installed mine myself and had my son print me a receipt for an hour's labor at his shop. I emailed that and a copy of his ASE Master Tech certificate to Ford Performance, I had confirmation that the warranty was registered in a couple of hours.

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Wish my kid was an ase tech

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Wish my kid was an ase tech
Quite sure if you join a car club there will be any number of ASE techs that will be willing to help you when the get to know you.

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