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i have been looking at this for some time and have been thinking about getting the set . Has anyone bought this and is it worth the money would you feel the gain in horse power ?I am looking at option b the intake pac
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i have been looking at this for some time and have been thinking about getting the set . Has anyone bought this and is it worth the money would you feel the gain in horse power ?I am looking at option b the intake pac
http://www.rpmoutlet.com/newv6m.htm
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The underdrive pulley is definitely worth it.

I wouldn't trust the water pump pulley, and the CAI isn't any better than a drop in K&N filter.


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what about the 70 mm throttle body do you think its just a farse ?
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what about the 70 mm throttle body do you think its just a farse ?
Not unless you have a power adder or a pretty healthy cam.

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so if I bought power option A (underdrive pullys) you dont think I should swap the water pump pully? would the belt still fit if I didnt? this package doesnt underdrive the alternator?

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also whats a harmonic balancer? I just sold my old truck and I have some extra cash to blow, mayby on this:eyepoppin

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so if I bought power option A (underdrive pullys) you dont think I should swap the water pump pully? would the belt still fit if I didnt? this package doesnt underdrive the alternator?
All of the pulleys run off the crank pulley, which is connected to the harmonic balancer. It's 1 unit.

So, the alternator is already underdriven by the crank pulley.

Call them to make sure the belt is the correct size.

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also whats a harmonic balancer? I just sold my old truck and I have some extra cash to blow, mayby on this:eyepoppin
It balances the rotating mass of the engine.

Whether or not you blow it on this, kinda depends on your budget, your goals, and your plans . . .

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$250 bucks is well within my range, and as far as my goals go I'm not 100% sure but right now I'm thinkin about being able to hang with or beat a 99-04 GT. This summer I'm gunna try to break into engine work (heads, cam, valve springs) but I figure the pulleys would be easy no attachments power.

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underdrive pulleys

I have a 2004 and I got option "A" with the water pump and 42% crank pulley. The belt they send will work whether you put the water pump pulley on or not. They sent me a water pump pulley that was slightly different looking than in the picture. It looked better; they said it was the 2nd generation one. The only thing was that when i put the water pump pulley on, the part of the belt that runs on top of it was very close to the part that runs right above it near the alternator. I havent had any problems with them.

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$250 bucks is well within my range, and as far as my goals go I'm not 100% sure but right now I'm thinkin about being able to hang with or beat a 99-04 GT. This summer I'm gunna try to break into engine work (heads, cam, valve springs) but I figure the pulleys would be easy no attachments power.
The underdriver never hurts!

But to get a 99-04 GT, you've really got to plan. You've got the goal, now you need a budget and a plan.

They've got a power to weight ratio of approximately 12.5-13 lbs/hp.

ours have 16.

to match a 99+ GT it's going to take $3000-4000, no matter how you cut it.

Whether it's engine work + N2O, or SC+ intake porting & exhaust, or fairly extensive lightening + either of the other options.

The pre -99 GT's are an easier target with 15 lbs/hp. You can get into the ballpark with bolt-on hp or even by taking 150lbs off the car, and helping the car to hook.

Lets say you added 20hp with boltons.

you'd have to still remove 325 lbs to get into the ballpark . . .

-It's doable, plastic rear & side glass, carbon fiber hood decklid & driveshaft, aluminum flywheel, revoved rear seats, and replaed fronts with middle to light weight seats, but even then, the pieces will cost $3-4000.

So let's say you took an easy 162.5 lbs off the car.

you'd need to make 229 hp. That's also doable, but you're going to need some head & intake work, a more aggressive cam, etc.

Is this making any sense?

So some people go all out on power, but leave the weight in, or start adding weight with wheels, tires, stereo equipment, etc, and end up shooting themselves in the foot, and wondering why they're so slow. Add a couple of hundred lbs of stereo equipment and suddenly you've got to make 250-260 hp, which is REALLY tough unless you go with a stroker, etc.

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I know weight is important but I dont want to do stuff like rear seat delete because I like my car the way it looks. Also, beating a 99-04 gt is not an immediate goal; I have no problem taking the long way to get there.

And you right, power isn't everything, I really need to start getting suspension and grip work done. Anyways, it sounds like the pulleys aren't a bad idea as long as I dont swap the water pump pulley.

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water pump pulley

hey, what do you all have against the water pump pulley, its almost exactly the same as stock just slightly larger, and lighter. It may not really do anything power wise, but it looks nice. The only thing that it is doing is turning the water pump slightly slower. The coolant temp is in the exact spot as it was before the pulleys were put on. As far as water pump cavitation, the pulleys would reduce/prevent it because cavitation happens at high rpms.

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K well i have a flowmaster exhaust and the under drive pulley kit and i still want some more oumf with out getting into the superchargers and nos what would gives you the best bang for your buck ??
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K well i have a flowmaster exhaust and the under drive pulley kit and i still want some more oumf with out getting into the superchargers and nos what would gives you the best bang for your buck ??

What year car do you have?


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