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I have a 2002 3.8L with a completely stock motor. I really want to put nitrous on my car right off the bat. My problem is that i don't know jack about nitrous. that's where my question comes in. How do u guys think it would effect my car. it has just over 70K miles on it. Dry or wet kit? What shot? All that good stuff. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

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I've heard that the stock bottom end is good for up to a 100 shot, I would limit it to 75. The problem is, if you don't know anything about nitrous, you won't know how to tune it, which is a neccessity if you want the motor to live. I would never reccomend a dry kit, that is just way to harmful to pistons. Your best bet for safe spraying is a 75 shot, with someone who knows what they are doing to help you tune the car. It is preferable to have an AFR meter, I personally love INNOVATE's equipment, to help in the tuning proccess. If you don't know of anyone who has the equipment to do this, then you need to find someone who has experience reading spark plugs.

As for the system, I personally think a fogger style system is easier on parts, and more tuneable. You should get a higher volume pump to handle the extra fuel demand, if you don't just get a seperate pump for the nitrous.
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I have a 2002 3.8L with a completely stock motor. I really want to put nitrous on my car right off the bat. My problem is that i don't know jack about nitrous. that's where my question comes in. How do u guys think it would effect my car. it has just over 70K miles on it. Dry or wet kit? What shot? All that good stuff. Any help would be greatly appreciated.


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That car has high mileage for nitrous. Your just asking for a rebuild.
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That car has high mileage for nitrous. Your just asking for a rebuild.
yeah, and unless you've been using the recommended semi-synth . . ..

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So you guys don't think i should use nitrous at all? I've heard of people putting nitrous on cars with over 100,000 miles and mine only has 70,000. I was wanting to use a dry kit with about a 50 or 75 shot in my stang. What do u guys think? Here's a link to the kit that i plan on buying.

http://www.nitrousdirect.com/domesticnitrouskits.html

Let me know what you guys think.
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So you guys don't think i should use nitrous at all? I've heard of people putting nitrous on cars with over 100,000 miles and mine only has 70,000. I was wanting to use a dry kit with about a 50 or 75 shot in my stang. What do u guys think? Here's a link to the kit that i plan on buying.

http://www.nitrousdirect.com/domesticnitrouskits.html

Let me know what you guys think.
If you tune the car correctly, you should have no problem using the juice, even over 100,000.
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Do u think the same place that i get to install my nitrous kit on my car will be able to tune it also? And what exactly do u mean by tune it? And lastly what do i need to know about nitrous as far as the do's don'ts and tips? Cuz when i talked to my friends about it EVERY one of them said that i was going to blow up my motor.
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Do u think the same place that i get to install my nitrous kit on my car will be able to tune it also? And what exactly do u mean by tune it? And lastly what do i need to know about nitrous as far as the do's don'ts and tips? Cuz when i talked to my friends about it EVERY one of them said that i was going to blow up my motor.

I would venture a guess that the place that does your install could tune the car for you, but I'm not positive. The possibility is very real to burn all the pistons. A friend of mine fried all eight in his 351 Windsor the first time he sprayed it on the street, only because he tried to set it up himself and didn't know what he was doing. But, if the system is tuned correctly, you can get a lot of use out it with no problems at all. By tune it, I mean the Air to Fuel ratio must be correct. If the motor runs too lean, you will burn the pistons out of it. The easiest way to tune it is to have it dynoed. I would suggest running the car a little on the rich side, just to be safe, say an AFR in the low to mid 12's. The normal range is high 12's low 13's for an N/A car, if I'm not mistaken. To tune the car this way, you would need access to an Air-Fuel meter. If you get the car dynoed, the place you take it should have this equipment, and they should know how to tune the car for you. They would have a better idea of ideal AFR and such than I do, because most of the nitrous apps. that I have worked on are carbuerated motors with a plate or fogger system. They could also give you tips for using it and the do's and don'ts. My only tips for use are to only spray it when the car is at high RPM (above 3,000) and you have to have a full throtle switch and N2O pressure gauge. You should also have a low fuel pressure shut-off.
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ok i have just one last question. In parentheses beside the kit that i plan on buying it says "for use on vehicles with MAF( mass air flow sensor ). I was wondering if my car had one or if i would have to buy one in addition to the kit.
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Yes, your car has a mass air sensor.
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ok i have just one last question. In parentheses beside the kit that i plan on buying it says "for use on vehicles with MAF( mass air flow sensor ). I was wondering if my car had one or if i would have to buy one in addition to the kit.
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So i wouldn't have to buy anything else after i bought the nitrous kit and installed it on my car? Besides a tune that's all that i would need right is just the kit? I know it's a lot of questions but i really want to make my car perform the best it can and i'm not all that knowledgable about it.
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If you tune the car correctly, you should have no problem using the juice, even over 100,000.
If he or she has been using regular oil, the rings might not take the pressure. If they've been using synthetic or semisynthetic, I wouldn't worry about it.

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So i wouldn't have to buy anything else after i bought the nitrous kit and installed it on my car? Besides a tune that's all that i would need right is just the kit? I know it's a lot of questions but i really want to make my car perform the best it can and i'm not all that knowledgable about it.
You may need to get a higher flowing fuel pump, but the place where you purchase the kit would be able to tell you for sure. Other than that, you shouldn't need anything.
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If he or she has been using regular oil, the rings might not take the pressure. If they've been using synthetic or semisynthetic, I wouldn't worry about it.
I think as long as he or she kept up with the oil changes and everything, it should be able to handle it, even on conventional oil. If he or she didn't keep up with the changes, then you are definitely right.
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Guys I have the same as him, However I only have 35,000 miles. How much Hp is to be gained with the NOS and do you think it is better then adding the Turbo?

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