1993 Mustang 5.0L CAI issues...

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MarkS93

Discussion Starter · Jun 5, 2010

A little background....
I'm updating my throttle body and MAF to get ready to install an Explorer intake. The stock hose wouldn't fit over the 65mm TB I'm stalling (just barely won't fit). So, I ordered a Stack Racing CAI. Just got in yesterday. I went to install it this morning, stripped out all the stock parts. Installed the 65mm TB and put on the rubber connector for the air hose piece. Put on the air hose piece and it's too long and extends past the MAF. Not only that, but the angle is wrong. I can bend the rubber connector on the TB to change the angle but it distorts the rubber connector. Is this normal for a CAI to do something like this? I was so pissed, I took the stock air hose (the one I couldn't get on the 65mm TB), and using brute force, got it to stretch enough to fit. I'm returning the CAI because I don't want to cut it down or have to bend it like that. I want something that fits right. :thumbdown:
I should have forced the stock one to begin with to avoid this crap!

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spdjnky_42

· #2 · Jun 6, 2010

Looks like they gave you one for a 94 unless you are putting it together wrong. You probably could have just put a small slit in your stock one just to get it to start sliding on. Along with a lil slobber.:bigthumbsup

Mustangfreak196

· #3 · Jun 6, 2010

yeah i think they sent you the wrong CAI for your year.

brodieb

· #4 · Jun 6, 2010

Bummer Mark !! This is the one from C&L I got:

http://www.cnlperformance.com/images/76installed.jpg

It worked on mine with a little angle adjustment from the rubber rings without any problems.

Send it back !! Atleast you got to see the A's play. :smilie

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EagleAutosports

· #5 · Jun 6, 2010

They sent you the wrong one, that looks like one for the 4.6 cars.

As for the transition silicone connectors, you can get some from Race Part Solutions in straight, elbow, or transition humps and in different colors too.

MarkS93

Discussion Starter · #6 · Jun 6, 2010

Thanks for the input. I'm was thinking something was off. I agree it's probably the wrong one. Even the tube on the other side of the MAF is a bit short.

Sending it back. :smirk

...and yeah Brodieb....good game, nice fireworks! Thanks!

MarkS93

Discussion Starter · #7 · Jun 10, 2010

Was communicating with the American Muscle guys and sent them the pics. Looks like I didn't use the MAF relocation bracket. I just kept the MAF in the stock location, thus it not lining up properly. Silly me!! To my defense, there were NO instructions included in the box so I wasn't sure what that bracket was for.

I'll try the relocation bracket....however....2 questions:

Now that I got the stock hose to fit the 65mm TB, is the CAI worth the effort to put on over the stock unit?

Will the CAI filter get wet inside the fender from water getting in underneath? there is only a small opening under the car, just enough to get the CAI filter in. Anyone have problems with this?

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brendanryan0510

· #8 · Jun 10, 2010

MarkS93 said:
Was communicating with the American Muscle guys and sent them the pics. Looks like I didn't use the MAF relocation bracket. I just kept the MAF in the stock location, thus it not lining up properly. Silly me!! To my defense, there were NO instructions included in the box so I wasn't sure what that bracket was for.

I'll try the relocation bracket....however....2 questions:

Now that I got the stock hose to fit the 65mm TB, is the CAI worth the effort to put on over the stock unit?

Will the CAI filter get wet inside the fender from water getting in underneath? there is only a small opening under the car, just enough to get the CAI filter in. Anyone have problems with this?

as to the water issue from driving, i have a ram air intake (filter in engine bay) and a ram air hood. i drive in the rain all the time and i have NEVER had a problem with my filter getting wet. mine is a lot more exposed to getting wet than yours is so id assume yours is fine.

What do you mean by putting the CAI over the stock unit?

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need4spd90

· #9 · Jun 10, 2010

send it to me..i'll swap it in for my stock airbox/k&n panel filter setup and see if it works when i hit the test&tune at the track in 2 weeks lol

MarkS93

Discussion Starter · #10 · Jun 11, 2010

brendanryan0510 said:
What do you mean by putting the CAI over the stock unit?

I meant is it really that much of a difference using a CAI unit "rather than" the stock air box setup?

need4spd90

· #11 · Jun 11, 2010

MarkS93 said:
I meant is it really that much of a difference using a CAI unit "rather than" the stock air box setup?

oooo

hknow

and here i thought you meant you were going to put the new tubing right on over the top of the old stuff,and have a dual air intake..jeez

EagleAutosports

· #12 · Jun 11, 2010

No you won't have an issue with water entering the filter unless you drive into a pond of water high enough to reach the filter. And if that happens, that's your fault. :rollgrin:

spdjnky_42

· #13 · Jun 11, 2010

LOL Speakin of ponds a kid came around a corner next to my house and flipped his girlfriends car into the pond. He lived but didnt tell anyone it was in there for two days.

As for OP it frees up a couple hp.:bigthumbsup

MarkS93

Discussion Starter · #14 · Jun 11, 2010

need4spd90 said:
oooohknow

and here i thought you meant you were going to put the new tubing right on over the top of the old stuff,and have a dual air intake..jeez

ROFL!! :grinroll: If I were a ricer, I might consider it! That would look bitchin' on an Eclipse and probably add about 50 fwhp, providing I put the Stack Racing sticker on the window as well!! :winks

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MarkS93

Discussion Starter · #15 · Jun 12, 2010

Got it installed today! There is the MAF relocation bracket that I installed and it worked ok, just a little off. Still had to find a screw to mount it as the kit didn't come with one. Also had a bit of trouble with the MAF mounting screws (3 of them). On the original bracket, it has a 1/2 thick bushing on the 3 screw holes. It doesn't on the new S.R. bracket. The screws screwed in most of the way, but not all the way. I had to go to Ace Hardware and get some nylon bushings and it worked. Seems to be ok after the install. My idle is at about 700 though...a little lower than normal. Checked my timing and it's still right on. Checked the TPS voltage and it's at .98. Should I adjust the idle screw a bit?

I'll have some pics tomorrow. Looks pretty good except I scratched one of the black tubes. I'll fix that eventually!! :bigthumbsup

Funny thing is on the box, it says it will "Bolt right in". When it says that, be afraid....be very afraid!!! :heha: It never seems to be the case!

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MarkS93

Discussion Starter · #16 · Jun 12, 2010

Here are the pics. Looks pretty decent. Need to adjust one of the hose clamps near the throttle body, it's crooked a bit.

Also, let me clarify my question in my previous post...... my idle went down a bit after installing the new BBK 65mm throttle body, not after I installed the CAI. Should I adjust the idle?

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