[troychambliss973]

I'm planning on building a new edge mustang on some sort of budget. What I'm looking for is a decently fast n/a factory new edge from Ford that I can use as a starter. I just need the 0 60 and 1/4 mile times for all 4 vehicles.

 

[Hazey]

That info is all on the internet somewhere and I'm not gonna Google it for you.
I will share my thoughts on why the fastest one in stock form might not be the one you want to start with though.
- The difference in stock acceleration times between the three 4.6 4V cars will be insignificant. The '95 will be a bit slower. All of them are slow by modern standards.
-Only the '99 Cobra and Mach1 are "new edge" cars. The pre-'99 cars look significantly different and most people prefer one or the other.
-What's the end goal for the car? Full blown 9 second drag car? Weekend canyon carver? Road racer?
If you'll be happy with something in the 500 HP range, I would get one of the 4.6 4V cars, slap a Vortech/Paxton on it and be done. The pushrod 5.0 can certainly get to that power level but it's a bit more involved.
-The '99/'01 Cobra is the only one of those cars with IRS which I would consider a plus in most situations. It's definitely a compromised IRS but I really hate the '77 Fairmont 4 link the other cars all have for anything other than drag racing. A panhard bar / torque arm fixes the geometry issues on the live axle cars but isn't cheap.
-If you're looking to build a fire breathing monster, it doesn't really matter which one you start with because you'll be replacing everything anyway. Trying to push much past 500 HP on a stock pushrod 5.0 block or NA 4.6 rotating assembly is asking for the big kaboom. If I really wanted more than that in an SN95/new edge, I would either start with the nicest V6 car I could find and throw a nasty stroker 351 Windsor in it or cough up the dough for an '03-'04 Cobra in the first place.

 

[troychambliss973]

You gave me another idea. I'm gonna scrap all of that **** and just find a nice v6 new edge on Facebook marketplace, buy a Godzilla engine and just stuff it in there with some help from my friends. For boost I'll just go whipple instead of twin turbo because they are my favorite supercharger. Yes I could go twin turbo but power isn't really what im looking for considering that a new edge with 420hp as it is is already a bit scary on its own. Twin turbo would just be overkill and I think theres a guy with a tt godzilla swapped fox body kicking ass on the drag strip. The reason why I was asking for numbers because if I remembered correctly, I think when Ford came out with the 1999 cobra, it was less powerful than the 98 cobra but when I try to look up some timings for these cars, most of it was inconsistent. But now none of that dosent matter anymore lol. I already have almost 5 grand saved up as of now so I'm nearly halfway there already. I'm guessing this project should be done in about a year from now give or take. I know its gonna be complicated as hell for me but it'll pay off and I'm gonna have something that not many people have. Thank you.

 

[Cobrajet67]

You gave me another idea. I'm gonna scrap all of that **** and just find a nice v6 new edge on Facebook marketplace, buy a Godzilla engine and just stuff it in there with some help from my friends. For boost I'll just go whipple instead of twin turbo because they are my favorite supercharger. Yes I could go twin turbo but power isn't really what im looking for considering that a new edge with 420hp as it is is already a bit scary on its own. Twin turbo would just be overkill and I think theres a guy with a tt godzilla swapped fox body kicking ass on the drag strip. The reason why I was asking for numbers because if I remembered correctly, I think when Ford came out with the 1999 cobra, it was less powerful than the 98 cobra but when I try to look up some timings for these cars, most of it was inconsistent. But now none of that dosent matter anymore lol. I already have almost 5 grand saved up as of now so I'm nearly halfway there already. I'm guessing this project should be done in about a year from now give or take. I know its gonna be complicated as hell for me but it'll pay off and I'm gonna have something that not many people have. Thank you.

You already said you had a 2007 Mustang, then immediately after you said that you had a 2008 Mustang, but now supposedly you're looking for a 1999-04 fantasy car project. It seems to me that everything you say is dreams and fantasy. You also don't respond to half of the threads that you start. If you happen to be a kid then that's all good and fine but it's best to read and learn rather than pretend and bs.
So, for a 1999-04 v6 Mustang in fair shape($4000+) or nice shape($5000+), Godzilla engine($8000 + freight), control pack($3550), alternator/accessory drive install kit($750-$855), electronic throttle pedal($170), fuel/oil/wide band sensors($800), K-member($500), if stock manifolds aren't desired then Godzilla swap headers($1400), custom exhaust, compatible transmission, compatible torque converter, probably a custom driveshaft, 8.8" axle, full v8 suspension, and all the other things you'd need to make that work it's going to cost a whole LOT more than $5k-$10k. I didn't even get into A/C or a turbocharger/supercharger. You can add another $700-$1000 for the A/C compressor install kit and custom A/C lines and idk like maybe $6000-$8000 or so on a turbo/SC plus $2000k-$3000k for the specific control pack upgrade parts, high flow injectors, and fuel pump. Oh yeah, that engine probably won't fit under the stock hood so a few hundred for a fiberglass or carbon fiber one. I'm also definitely forgetting stuff here so there's plenty more $ needed on top of the at least $25k-$35k so far.
Ford Performance "Godzilla" V8 Crate Engine - 7.3L | M-6007-73 (lmr.com)
Team Z Mustang Matrix Tubular K-Member - 7.3L Godzilla Swap (94-04) (lmr.com)
OBR Ford 7.3 V8 'Godzilla' Engine Control Pack - OBR Control Systems Inc
Ford Godzilla Engine - 675HP Street Car Swap – Mast Motorsports
Ford Performance 7.3L Godzilla Accessory Drive Kit | M-8600-SD73 (lmr.com)
My suggestion is come down to earth once and for all and just go find a nice affordable GT, Cobra, or Mach 1. Once you own a Mustang then you can think about doing something to it that's within reason and reach. You've already admitted that you're a complete novice in another one of your other imaginative threads so you're not going to successfully do any kind of these projected major powertrain swaps or engine projects without experience, knowledge, and lots of $ first.

 

[troychambliss973]

This is my car. 2007... 2008... same car pos 3 valve. No difference and yeah I'm 18 and you can say I'm a bit of a dumbass when it comes to **** like this and that's fine because I'm new and young. Im pretty sure all of us had big egos and unrealistic goals relating to mine right? Thats normal for people my age. Yes I get it. It's an engine swap on a car that it's not supposed to bolt on to like that and yes I know it's gonna be expensive asf to do but one day I'm gonna do it. Yes it may take 3 years 6 years or a whole decade but I'm gonna get it done. Yes I'm aware of what I have to pay for as well. My grandma's boyfriend has a junkyard with the truck in there so that means most likely this project can be done for a bit cheaper than expected. Sorry for asking stupid questions.

 

[massacre]

Just wanting to point out that there never was a 1977 Fairmont. The Fairmont/Zephyr (early Fox) chassis premiered in 1978 and ran until 1983.

I'm not a fan of pipe dream threads, Cobrajet is correct. Either start with your budget and do your research, or start with a goal and do your research.
Without knowing your budget or goals, or your skill level & how much equipment/tools you have, it's impossible to answer your question to any real degree.

Personally i would not go with a 7.3, Coyote would be a better swap IMHO.

 

[Cobrajet67]

Just wanting to point out that there never was a 1977 Fairmont. The Fairmont/Zephyr (early Fox) chassis premiered in 1978 and ran until 1983.

This is true but where was this mentioned massacre?

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This is my car. 2007... 2008... same car pos 3 valve. No difference and yeah I'm 18 and you can say I'm a bit of a dumbass when it comes to **** like this and that's fine because I'm new and young. Im pretty sure all of us had big egos and unrealistic goals relating to mine right? Thats normal for people my age. Yes I get it. It's an engine swap on a car that it's not supposed to bolt on to like that and yes I know it's gonna be expensive asf to do but one day I'm gonna do it. Yes it may take 3 years 6 years or a whole decade but I'm gonna get it done. Yes I'm aware of what I have to pay for as well. My grandma's boyfriend has a junkyard with the truck in there so that means most likely this project can be done for a bit cheaper than expected. Sorry for asking stupid questions.

This is apparently the first time that you've actually posted a pic of your car and it looks pretty nice so I wouldn't call it a pos. The only issue with the 2005-10 GT is that you have to do things at higher mileage(above about 150k) on original 3V engines. I'm talking about the complete timing and valvetrain jobs. Once done and with the updated parts they will be very reliable.
Questions aren't necessarily stupid but some can be completely unrealistic especially for a young novice. I can appreciate your youthful desire to do things but you have to walk before you run. Even with lots of knowledge and familiarity most veteran mechanics would have a hard time doing a different generation engine/trans swap successfully and properly, $ notwithstanding.
Idk what year your car actually is(whether 2007 or 2008 it'll say on the title so find out and stick with it) but a 2007-08 GT is a lot more desirable than any SN95 Mustang unless it was a 2003-04 Mustang Cobra or maybe the 2001 Bullitt or 2003-04 Mach 1.
If you want to upgrade a Mustang then you already have one to work with. Do some meaningful but rational power improvements or mods to your car and gain experience. Exhaust, headers, cams, intake manifold w/TB, or even a supercharger(a tuner is required on all these mods) are all goods ways to learn how to make an engine produce more power and go from a novice to an expert someday.

 

[massacre]

It was in Hazey's post, #2

 

[Hazey]

Yup, I mentioned it when bad mouthing the Fox/SN95/New Edge 4-link geometry. It does date to the 1977 calendar year but yes, the earliest cars to get it were 1978 models.