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Hey folks new here and have looked at a bunch of threads and could not find an answer to my question. That said I am sure this question has been asked many times.
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Swapping from automatic to a 5 speed in a 2.3, the tranny we have is out of a 5.0 I know the input shaft is a larger diameter, is there a bearing in existance that will allow the intallation of the larger diameter shaft or a fix to the problem other than getting a 2.3 tranny. we have the cable, pedal setup, wiring harness all removed from a donor.
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I think I would turn down the input shaft.

I would also cryo the shaft to help replace some of the lost hardening. Yes, hardening goes all the way through, but it is still hardest near the surface according to my machinist.

Be aware that the Fox V8 input shaft is about 1/4 inch shorter than the 4-cyl shaft, so it will not insert as deeply into the pilot as it was designed to do. This will probably be ok.
 

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Ty for input i was leaning towards turning the shaft but had heard that there was a bearing out there that would work but I couldnt find it.
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Seems like that link is broken, Maurice.. There is a bearing that will work for the 5.0 T-5 to 2.3 swap, one of the guys I work with was just telling me he did it before. I don't have any other info aside from that but I can ask him about it next time I see him
 

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I think he meant 2.3 tranny to a 5.0 That would be the DIESEL Pilot bearing Ranger.
 

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Hu. I guess all got solved. Good deal Maurice
 

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Almost there one more issue

Well as it turns out i have the shaft machined 20 bucks guy did it while we shot the breeze, he also recommended the oil lite bushing a little cheaper but decided to turn the unput shaft.

here is my new issue using the dame clutch , pressure plate, flywheel, the tranny stops a little over a 1/4 inch from the engine,
installed bell housing first then tranny smae problem back to installing the bell housing and tranny as a unit, still 1/4 from hitting home, put some brease on the input bearing sleeve retainer (end) and it looks like it is hitting the clutch?? found this interesting the only change is that this tranny is from a v-8 is there a different input shaft housing here also or am i just losing my everloving mind.
sorry for the long post just wanted the facts out there for you wizards
 

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Two thoughts:

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It will act like that if the clutch splines are not aligned with the input shaft splines. The solution is to engage a gear like fourth and insert a yoke or dirve shaft into the tail so that you can rotate the input shaft until the clutch splines align.

Second,
Is it possible that your 5.0 T5 is from a 94 or newer car?
Those have a longer input shaft...
 

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Hmmm thanks,
the splines are aligned. Thats what i was wanting to know thanks.

Do you or anyone know the lengths between the two, i think this is a modified tranny its an older borg warner t-5 wc.
 

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The tip of the 94 and newer shaft sticks out about 8 inches from the face of the transmission. A 93 and older sticks out about 5/8 less.

These measurements are not exact, of course, but will suffice for identification purpouses.

The 4-cylinder shaft sticks out about 1/4 inch more than the 93 and older V-8 shafts...
 

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Eh i may have mispoke, i was refering to the input shaft bearing retainer cover that goes over the input shaft it is what is hitting the clutch.
 

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Eh i may have mispoke, i was refering to the input shaft bearing retainer cover that goes over the input shaft it is what is hitting the clutch.
The 93 and older "bearing retainer" extends about 4 1/2 inches from the face of the transmission.

The 94 and newer one extends about 5 1/4 inches.

Again, ball-park measurements, but good for identification purposes.
Again, you would want the shorter one.

What cluch are you using?
 

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Aha thats it i have the longer one figures been riddled with fun tasks with this project.
not sure which clutch it is the one that came with the engine we got just going for the install atm it is a new clutch just a autozone one im sure, wait till all is good and son can drive the stick before switching :smilie
 

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ok all set that was the problem all hooked gonna pressure wash paint and put the eng trans in next week.
thanks for all the help from everyone i know it gets monotinous and hopefully i can help someone in the future, been a learning exp but dig it.
 

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Question how did you remove the input gear to have it turned down. Does the V8 unit pull clear of the case without complete disassemble. Thanks Tom:bigthumbsup
 

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Question how did you remove the input gear to have it turned down. Does the V8 unit pull clear of the case without complete disassemble. Thanks Tom:bigthumbsup
Yes, the input shaft comes out the front BUT you have to be careful or the 15 loose roller bearings will fall down inside the transmission!


Remove the bearing retainer, but leave the shaft in place.

Elevate the TAIL of the transmission by about 4 inches or so.

Rotate the input shaft until the notch in the clutching teeth align
with the counter gear and pull it out. The rollers should remain
in the pocket of the input shaft.

To reassemble, elevate the front of the transmission by at least 2 inches.

Pack the 15 rollers in the pocket using grease so they won't fall out.

Seat the 4th gear synchro ring in the groove of the synchro hub.

Align the notch and insert the shaft.
 
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