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Ok i need some help here.I going to have 2500 cash to spend on a long block for my 87 lx. anyone know of a good deal on one thats got like double roller cam,roller lifters,forged pistons and some good heads ? I looking for around 320 to 340 HP i know i cant get any further up in HP unless i have more money but im thinking you all might give me a name or phone number of a company that can help me.
I live here in reno nv. and could drive as far as the bay area to pick it up if i had to - shipping costs.Its still a SD computer in the car but im going to order the ford MAF conversion kit from summit racing.I have been racking my brain for about two weeks on what motor to buy and who to buy it from.The one from summit sounds good but i know theres got to be better out there for the same cost or less.I was looking at this one in my 5.0 mustang
magazine and all sounds good 340 hp 302 with 10.5 compresion ? is that to much to add on a blower or run nos? Any help on where to get a good motor to buy would be a big help.
 

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10.5 compression plus a blower is going to be hard to run pump gas . . unless you keep the boost light. But, there's nothing wrong with building a lot of HP in the motor and keeping the boost low.

Just make sure that whatever you buy is going to be tough enough to withstand a blower or nitrous . . . it would be a shame to have you engine go boom instead of zoom.

As for me, I'm doing the blower first . . wearing out the stock motor while I build the new motor.
 

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10.5to 1 is a little high for a poweradder, if you are serious about a motor, check out dssracing.com they build some wicked motor's....

hotwheels of insanemustangs.com
 

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privatejoker said:
We need some more info. What's wrong with the stock engine? Is the stock shortblock usable?
the motor seems to run realy strong even though the rings are a little worn.BUT still has enough balls to beat a stock 05 GT.My gaol is to spend 2500 on a good long block motor and go from there with intake long tube headers.Going all out with msd everythig,and after the motor is broken in due some nos just so i can spank a couple of LS1 & STI around town. looks like ill stay away from the 10.5 compression motors i want to run on pump gas.
 

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shakerhood said:
I would start with a good set of brakes and suspension before the engine!
asuspension was already done everything BBK springs/upper,lower swing arms.Brakes green stuff good enough from 100 to 0 for me.
 

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wyominghotwheel said:
10.5to 1 is a little high for a poweradder, if you are serious about a motor, check out dssracing.com they build some wicked motor's....

hotwheels of insanemustangs.com
Boy they do have some realy bad azz motors there! i added that site to my every growing wish list.
Now remember i only want to spend 2500 on a long block,do you Know of a good company in the cal.bay area that can help me with the motor i want and stay in my price range?
 

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Be careful about building a motor toob ig and bad for your suspension....A good motor does no good if you can't keep the car straight...That motor will rename your car to the "twizzler."
 

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5.0 man said:
the motor seems to run realy strong even though the rings are a little worn.BUT still has enough balls to beat a stock 05 GT.My gaol is to spend 2500 on a good long block motor and go from there with intake long tube headers.Going all out with msd everythig,and after the motor is broken in due some nos just so i can spank a couple of LS1 & STI around town. looks like ill stay away from the 10.5 compression motors i want to run on pump gas.
What mods do you have now? If you havent upgraded your heads,cam and intake you cannot beat any stock 05 gt's.
 

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What mods do you have now? If you havent upgraded your heads,cam and intake you cannot beat any stock 05 gt's.
sorry but i have 3 times in a row.Yes i have many mods from cam a very mild cam that is though you can only go so far on a SD motor.headers off road H-pipe.flow master with turn down tips in front of the axles,alum.drive shaft.rebuilt rear end with 3.73 gears B&m short throw shifter,65mm throttle body & egr spacer,K&N HIGH FLOW FILTER..thats good for @ least 25hp..heheheeh(joke)
14 deg timing,flex-A-light flex fan,balanced 180 deg t-stat,high performce raditor, big bobs ac delete kit,
10.5 ford racing clutch,blablabla i need to get this stuff down at the bottom of my threads like every one else its just to much to tell every time someone asks.
where and how do i do it??im still new to this site and kinda lost.and as far as what the other guy said. why would my car with lots of HP be called king twizzler????? im a good driver....


please loard let no man ask about what happend to my rim
 

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So you have exhaust done and a throttle body and expect to run a 13.8 or faster ?

King twizzler , i dunno man I wouldnt want to be called that. :confused:

If your car can beat the new 05's that have 300 hp, why do you need a motor that has 320 hp? It should be close to that.
 

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yeah, im kinda with the rest of these guys ... y would u waste ur money on a whole new motor if its workin fine? get heads, an intake, rockers, and a nicer cam. then get bigger injectors, and recal ur MAF, or get a new one.

uve already got the suspension, gears, short throw, exhaust, and the K&N and TB. Y buy a whoel new block and internals unless its a storker motor :)
 

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or just get some porting or something done, and get a nice tune
 

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5.0 man said:
and as far as what the other guy said. why would my car with lots of HP be called king twizzler????? im a good driver....
"Twizzler" I do believe comes from the chassis twist you'll get from all the torque that engine produces. Not sure about any other fox bodies, but a stock 5.0L LX weighs about 2.7-2.8. Compare that to a smaller car such as a delsol which weighs about 2.3, or to the 95 v6 version which weighed in at about 3.1. 5.0s are light for the amount of power they produce which makes it easy to twist without proper reinforcement at higher hp. (What I think anyway, anyone care to comment?)

*Just got done researching yet another car* I'm curious...the new 05s weigh 3450 @ 300hp(.086), and the fox bodes weigh 2770 @ 225hp(.081). How does the power to weight ratio not come into effect here? From this it seems that a simple missed shift or wrong steering alignment would change the outcome. So why is it so not possible for an older car to beat a new gt? Not to sound smart mouthed or anything, just wondering.
 

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LOL...sorry man..I was not trying to degrade your car by my twizzler comment....I have seen a bunch of guys drop a fat stroker in in fox and not touch the suspension....You can always tell them apart when they take off down the track...The twizzler is the twisting of the suspension causing the car to drift or just get sideways...I was just saying keep your suspension up with your motor. Goo:smoke: dluck friend :)
 

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"Twizzler" I do believe comes from the chassis twist you'll get from all the torque that engine produces. Not sure about any other fox bodies, but a stock 5.0L LX weighs about 2.7-2.8. Compare that to a smaller car such as a delsol which weighs about 2.3, or to the 95 v6 version which weighed in at about 3.1. 5.0s are light for the amount of power they produce which makes it easy to twist without proper reinforcement at higher hp. (What I think anyway, anyone care to comment?)

*Just got done researching yet another car* I'm curious...the new 05s weigh 3450 @ 300hp(.086), and the fox bodes weigh 2770 @ 225hp(.081). How does the power to weight ratio not come into effect here? From this it seems that a simple missed shift or wrong steering alignment would change the outcome. So why is it so not possible for an older car to beat a new gt? Not to sound smart mouthed or anything, just wondering.
I dont know where you got your numbers fox bodies but with manual transmissions the
5.0 lx notchback weighs 3040 lbs P/W Ratio 0.074
5.0 lx hatchback weighs 3100 P/W Ratio 0.0725
5.0 lx vert weighs 3240 lbs P/W Ratio 0.069
GT hatch weighs 3200 lbs P/W Ratio 0.070
GT vert weighs 3320 lbs P/W Ratio 0.068


At best, the lx notchback's 0.074 is still quite a bit away from 0.86 and the 05's have 40 more lb/ft torque than the stock 302.

Even the light notchback would need alteast 40 hp to meet the power to weight ratio of the 05's.
 

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That's the 2.3l 4cyl
 

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2770 is low. Peoples projects meet a premature death all the time. Search your local racing sites or classifieds and find a used shortblock that has had all the machine work done. Find a nice set of used TFS or Eddy heads online and buy an intake and custom cam. There's around 2000-2500. Get it running and pick up the bolt-ons later when money frees up.
 
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