[CaliCombo]

Order my mustang, waiting for delivery.

I asked dealer if they could install the 3.73 on my order (auto tran). Dealer said, it won't void the warranty but will not install until after pickup.

I told him he should install/reprogram before I pickup so it's more convenient for me.

Should I press this matter and have dealer install it before I pickup my vehicle?

 

[FUZZYDP]

Order my mustang, waiting for delivery.

I asked dealer if they could install the 3.73 on my order (auto tran). Dealer said, it won't void the warranty but will not install until after pickup.

I told him he should install/reprogram before I pickup so it's more convenient for me.

Should I press this matter and have dealer install it before I pickup my vehicle?

You will need a tuner or Procal to correct speedometer. Search TSB on this & decide if you want to chance it first. Long read.

 

[turk390]

doubt they will cave to your request..you can certainly push a little harder, you are their customer after all...

did you work the price for the new gears into the deal when you bought the car?

 

[CaliCombo]

Salesman did say it'll take some reprogramming, but it's at their shop so I don't think it'll be a big deal. Shop tech already said that installing 3.73 gears on auto won't break TSB (void warranty).

I got the vehicle at invoice+200. This dealership was only place willing to order the vehicle at cost.

I did not work a deal on installing the gears, but I haven't taking ownership yet so I can still deal addons.

I have told the salesman I'm willing to pay for parts and labor to install. Figure I can use the incentives and $750 coupon to push for the install.

Just not sure how much negotiation power I have to get those gears install before pickup.

Any help in talking my sales rep to install would be appreciated.

 

[2oo5GT]

I don't see why they can't before pick up. They probably have the tool to flash the computer for a 3.73's and won't need an aftermarket tuner. Especially since you can get 3.73's from the factory. Your the customer and they should be helping you, not the other way around. I would push hard if its what you want.

 

[MustangChris810]

Your buying the car with your money. When it comes to services the dealer should really cater to you.

That's a little messed up. They should be taking care of you.

 

[5.0ben]

You will need a tuner or Procal to correct speedometer. Search TSB on this & decide if you want to chance it first. Long read.

I understand the tsb and understand a procal would be needed to calibrate the speedo. I don't see how this would be a risk to your warranty if the dealer calibrated the speedo with the procal themselves, obviously not the same as a performance tune that would effect anything...

 

[MustangChris810]

I don't see why they can't before pick up. They probably have the tool to flash the computer for a 3.73's and won't need an aftermarket tuner. Especially since you can get 3.73's from the factory. Your the customer and they should be helping you, not the other way around. I would push hard if its what you want.

No 373's with an auto BTW. Not sure how this would affect the dealers re-flashing of the PCM, just sayin....

 

[FUZZYDP]

Salesman did say it'll take some reprogramming, but it's at their shop so I don't think it'll be a big deal.

HAHA! Salesmen will tell you what you want to hear. Be prepared to fork out for a tuner of some kind & take risk @ minimum only having 36K on engine vs. factory 60K. Not raggin' on you just stating fact. Beware! Research!

 

[FUZZYDP]

BTW. If it wouldn't effect my factory warranty I would have already done this on my auto too. Sucks.

 

[CaliCombo]

I'm not a lawyer but I have his explanation on email.

I will ask a lawyer for opinion on this regarding voided warranty and dealer responsibility.

 

[dewyrussler]

The only reason I could think of is if, for instance, your car comes in , they swap out the gears and reprogram the computer...and then you decide to bail on buying the car. That is a risk they would have to take, and they could end up with a car that they may feel they wouldn't get a return on. (if you don't buy it and someone else was to buy the car instead, they would have a hard time charging them for the mods you wanted). I'm not saying you would do that...but the dealer may just be protecting itself. Once you complete the sale and own the car, then they should be more than willing to deal with you.

Good luck...3:73s with the auto is perfect!

 

[FUZZYDP]

This applies to Procal which will be needed to calibrate speedometer after gear swap.



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[5.0ben]

BTW. If it wouldn't effect my factory warranty I would have already done this on my auto too. Sucks.

I hear you and will probably stay bone stock. I actually like the stock auto gears.
Would a tune and gears be more fun? Of course it would, but not worth losing my new car warranty.
I understand the Ford Racing warranty but don't understand how they can call it a tune if the Procal is only being used to calibrate the speedo for a gear swap or even tires?. If something in your powertrain fails how could they blame a speedo calibration as the cause of failure.
From what your saying it looks like if the Procal is used on your car for anything it cancels out your factory warranty and the lame 1 year Ford racing warranty takes over or 3 year before delivery. That sounds unfair to me.:nono: If used for a performance tune I would understand. Not speedo calibration, that's crap!

When I got my gears swapped on my manual GT I got a copy of the 1 year limited Ford racing warranty and the dealer said I would need to bring this for anything that were to go wrong with my rear-end and or gears. Power train and bumper to bumper warranty were still intact except the rear-end.

 

[FUZZYDP]

It is crap! Only problem is Procal not only compensates for gears, it tunes. Therefore you get it installed before delivery you get a 3 year 36K FRPP warranty instead of FOMOCO 60K power train. My stock gears will have to do. With trans reduction on auto it's pretty dang stout & if you check you will see it's very competitive to a lower geared manuals on the strip. I'm not willing to sacrifice 24K worth of warranty for the difference. Just me. If something changes w/Ford denying warranty & their new TSB I'm there.

 

[Sleeper5.0]

Well once ya get it done.. Will you post your RPM's at 65mph? I am curious..

I like the stock gearing.. Mine feels ruthless, but in the back of my mind I wonder what 3:73' would be like with the auto.. Whew.. It's going to be a beast on the take off.. Hold on tight

 

[aldocella1]

I don't think the dealer is allowed to modify the car 'till the title changes hands. I think by law you actually have to own it before the dealers can modify the performance.

 

[FUZZYDP]

They have modded new vehicles on dealer lots all over here..

 

[2011GrabberGT]

The IDS can change the gear ratio's too. They don't need a Procal or tuner... They probably don't want to do it until you officially have it in your name. I wouldn't want to modify a vehicle and then have the customer jump ship on it, leaving them on the hook for the parts and labor. Some people do not want modifications or the dealer messing with their brand new car, so it could make it harder to sell.

 

[locotone07]

Well once ya get it done.. Will you post your RPM's at 65mph? I am curious..

I like the stock gearing.. Mine feels ruthless, but in the back of my mind I wonder what 3:73' would be like with the auto.. Whew.. It's going to be a beast on the take off.. Hold on tight

From AM's site:
Ford Racing 3.73 Gears (11-12 GT) at AmericanMuscle.com - Free Shipping!
there is a chart about halfway down the page:
5th gear: 2595, 6th gear: 2067