[Kyle F]

Well, I got 25mpg on the highway with 1000 miles on mine.
Avg around 22 driving to work and what, pretty good mix of driving.


As far as performing as well as an STI... are you kidding. IT has 300hp and weighs almost 600lbs more. I already raced one and beat him... I was stock he had catback exhaust, BOV, and a boost controller.

Handling, well the less weight helps. I know the AWD systmem is good for bad wether, or unideal conditions... but who races in those conditions.

If you want a Rice Racer and have all the High School Boys drooling get the STI... its not a bad car. If you want the women and more mature folks eyeing your car... get a GT.

BTW, knocking the GT on a Mustang forum gets you official Troll Status. :sterb:

 

[Kyle F]

to be honest the sti has a 4.9 0-60 time, where the stang has a 5.1 sec time, a lot of this is because of the all wheel drive. but at freeway speeds it is a drivers race.

I have yet to see this in real life. The STI is a hard car to launch properly. But soon the weight advantage overcomes the 60' advantage. Look above.

 

[Kyle F]

The 05 GT has to be the first sub 30k stock car to hit under 5.0 seconds with pure engine power right?(That discludes S/C, turbo's, and aftermarket stuff). True American Muscle :laughlitt

Nope, 00-02 Z28's. If you could get one with Cloth intereior it would have been under $30K

 

[Kyle F]

And that car did NOT do 0-60 in under 5 seconds. No way, no how. My '97 Cobra was just as quick (or darn close) to the SS Camaro.

I stand by my original statement. Those cars put down more than 310hp to the wheels.

You Cobra was rated at 305hp at the Crank?


You must have met a dog or someone who couldn't drive.

 

[Kyle F]

http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Drives/Comparos/articleId=47901/pageId=5979
The Chevy's 5.7-liter OHV V8 makes 310 hp at 5,200 rpm and a brutish 340 lb-ft of torque at 4,000 rpm.
With our timing equipment at the ready, we found that the Z28 accelerates from 0 to 60 mph in 5.5 seconds and passes the quarter-mile in 13.8 seconds at 105.4 mph.

Wow, Ford must have paid some serious cash to advertise in that Magazine.

Im sorry and LS1 Z28 running a 13.8?:eyebulge:

Who was driving that thing... my grandma?

Plenty of Mags out there posted sub 13.3 times for those. If you want to magazine race, I have an issue of GM High Tech Performance and they put a set of slicks on a boe stock 98 and ran a 12.9. 00-02 have more power. So figure a 12.7

Under $30K and only cost $400 for the slicks and Bam... first car under $30K to run 12s... adjusted for inflation.

There is just no way that an 05 Mustang GT is faster than a LS1. :handball:

 

[Kyle F]

What Chevy would I drive? A truck?

Sorry, they killed the F-body and I am a Huge Pontiac fan.

Didnt get the GTO because of Price... just want worth it because I didnt want all the options.

The GT filled what I like. V8 RWD and a Stick, plus it looks cool. Though, in no way does its performance impress me, but its good enough.

If their still was a Firebird to be had new, I wouldn't have even looked at anythign else, but there is not so here I am. Happy owner of an 05 GT.

 

[Kyle F]

Last time I went and looked at a GTO the salesman was almost begging me to take it. I told him I was more interested in a Mustang and you would have to pay me to take a RWD Grand Prix with a V8. He told me whatever new Mustang GT I was looking at he would beat the price by $1000 with the same options, more or less paying me $1000 to buy it.

For being a huge Pontiac fan I could put you in touch with the dealership and they will probably give you the same deal.

They can't sale me a GTO for $24900.

That considerably below invoice and below dealer hold back. They would be taking a couple of thousand hit to pull that deal off.

 

[Kyle F]

There was actually more than just price that went into my choice of purchase.

I love my Stang, but I wish it had more power... Im working on that :winks

 

[Kyle F]

gto'S DON'T SELL well anywhere but Australia...

Maybe the power of a free market economy is speaking here, you know supply and DEMAND......

Actually, market wise they performed up to GM's expectations for the 05 model year. Markups were the problems with the 04's.

GM has priced them too high. When they did the Employee pricing the first month, the GTO was on it. Then, they had to take it of the subsequent moths because they were sellign too many and realized they could still reach their targets at MSRP.

You have to remember with the GTO its not about volume... at most they can make 18,000 per year. That is nothing in todays automotive productions. So, yes... you have to pay a premium to own a GTO over what the market dictates. I chose not to pay the preimium the GM, and not the dealers, are asking for.

 

[Kyle F]

Like I said, supply and DEMAND.

Nobody is demanding a goat.
Wait till the Shelby Cobra comes out, I highly doubt it'll sit rusting on the lot like the goats are...And several Vipers I've seen....
And, it will not be a status symbol for older middle aged guys like the vette... It'll be a muscle car for muscle car types.

I dont know where you live, but the GTOs do nto sit on lots here in Tennesse, or when I was in Ohio, or Georgia.

I can think of many reasons why the F-body is gone and the Mustang is here. It is defiantely not because the mustang was faster 3 years ago. :sterb:

How Successful would the Mustang be today if it was still rolling ont he 79 Chassis? I woudln't have bought one. The consumer didn't kill the F-body, GM did by not updating it.