[Ramaj]

so with the loss of my 2012, I lost my K&N drop in filter, they wouldn't let me remove it from the car and put the stock air filter back in after the wreck. So now I need to get a new filter, I don't want to invest in a full CAI just yet.

I had the K&N drop in filter on my 2012 and liked it just fine but I see AEM has one on the market and I just don't have any experience with their products. If you guys had to choose, which one would you go with?

Or would you remove the box and do a cone filter onto the stock piping? I'm not sure if that would be a very good idea in these cars.

Thanks,

 

[donfromnaples]

Since your car is new, I would wait until you put a few miles on it and when it is time to change the filter, then buy a replacement K&N if you don't want a CAI.

 

[Guest]

You have to oil the K&N, but not the AEM. Sometimes it is too easy to over oil the K&Ns, so I might tend to look hard at the AEMs.

 

[Siber Express]

AEM, I had a K&N CAI on my F-150 and replaced the filter with and AEM Filter. Clean it, let it dry and go, much easier IMO.

 

[Deadstick]

Since the same air filter is used in the 5.0 (over 400hp) as in the 3.7 (300hp) it stands to reason that the airflow through (both of them, but confine the argument for the 3.7) the filter is entirely sufficient to support the 3.7. Right? If the mass flow is fine and not restricted at over 400 hp, it is even LESS TAXED running the scrawny 3.7.

In other words, IMHO, putting in a different airfilter for performance is just mental masturbation. This has been proven in dyno tests where someone actually lost a couple horsepower using the k&N filter panel.

 

[audioAl]

I would like to hear about anyone using a cone on a stock tube, I use a K&N
now, AEM is fine as well.

 

[2Manystangs]

Since the same air filter is used in the 5.0 (over 400hp) as in the 3.7 (300hp) it stands to reason that the airflow through (both of them, but confine the argument for the 3.7) the filter is entirely sufficient to support the 3.7. Right? If the mass flow is fine and not restricted at over 400 hp, it is even LESS TAXED running the scrawny 3.7.

In other words, IMHO, putting in a different airfilter for performance is just mental masturbation. This has been proven in dyno tests where someone actually lost a couple horsepower using the k&N filter panel.

that is complete garbage...go get a K/N, you will instantly feel the difference, not to mention you don't have any recurring cost of replacing a paper filter...go toss off to that!

 

[Deadstick]

that is complete garbage...go get a K/N, you will instantly feel the difference, not to mention you don't have any recurring cost of replacing a paper filter...go toss off to that!

Please explain. And you can feel 1% in power either a loss or gain? Me thinks not.

 

[Intense]

Since the same air filter is used in the 5.0 (over 400hp) as in the 3.7 (300hp) it stands to reason that the airflow through (both of them, but confine the argument for the 3.7) the filter is entirely sufficient to support the 3.7. Right? If the mass flow is fine and not restricted at over 400 hp, it is even LESS TAXED running the scrawny 3.7.

In other words, IMHO, putting in a different airfilter for performance is just mental masturbation. This has been proven in dyno tests where someone actually lost a couple horsepower using the k&N filter panel.

I agree with your logic. I never had plans for a CAI and I'm fine with quiet intake.

 

[Siber Express]

I agree with your logic. I never had plans for a CAI and I'm fine with quiet intake.

:goodpoint:
I will get the AEM when it is time for replacing it, then all I have to do is clean it and stick it back in :bigthumbsup

 

[Intense]

:goodpoint:
I will get the AEM when it is time for replacing it, then all I have to do is clean it and stick it back in :bigthumbsup

Let us know your impression of it.:bigthumbsup

 

[Siber Express]

Will Do :bigthumbsup

 

[Morrillo]

If its a new car I have mixed feelings adding a oil filter over paper. Don't get me wrong I have a K&N in my Mitsu 4 banger and a Pathfinder with 0 problems . But from what I recall there is a study done of the performance of the filters and they bottom out well before other brands while passing more dust in. I will add the link for your review and opinions as soon as I get home in a couple of hours.

 

[pmr2000]

Throw this in the equation- Ford Racing Performance Pack power upgrade for 5.0 uses a K&N and tune instead of replacing CAI:

2011-2013 MUSTANG GT FORD RACING PERFORMANCE CALIBRATION WITH HIGH FLOW K&N AIR FILTER | Part Details for M-9603-MGTB* | Ford Racing Performance Parts

Filter only part and specs:
2010-2013 MUSTANG GT & 2011-2013 V6 HIGH-FLOW K&N / FORD RACING AIR FILTER | Part Details for M-9601-MGT | Ford Racing Performance Parts

 

[Morrillo]

Here is the link I was talking about:

K&N air filter or OEM, why OEM is better

I don't know if its biased or correct please review and add your input. Like I said before 2 of my cars already have K&N filters but this is the reason why my new Mustang still does not have one.

 

[Deadstick]

Here is the link I was talking about:

K&N air filter or OEM, why OEM is better

I don't know if its biased or correct please review and add your input. Like I said before 2 of my cars already have K&N filters but this is the reason why my new Mustang still does not have one.

THANKS SO MUCH FOR THAT LINK!

Just another solid data point on why I feel the CAI / Filter crowd around here are maybe kidding themselves.

The induction system, as ENGINEERED BY FORD, not the belt and suspender people standing around an engine bay, is 100% perfectly adequate.

I will say it again: Buy a CAI for the SOUND, not because you think you are bolting on horsepower. Because you are not. The filter panel that is good for 400hp will be excellent for 300hp. Period. So the KN will net nothing, except dirt in your engine.

"Compared to the AC, the K&N “plugged up” nearly 3 times faster, passed 18 times more dirt and captured 37% less dirt"

 

[pmr2000]

What if we don't have a GM Duramax Diesel as in their test?:shigrin How do we know if that test was paid for by a biased party?

Ford says the K&N flows 22% more than stock. Whether filtering to 96 or 99% is necessary is hard to say. Perhaps the grams of dirt they are passing are way more than normal use? Would we ever get to that point on a daily driver?

All I can say is real world with 2 Mustangs and 5 family cars shows mpg gains with K&N's and saving $ on OEM filter replacements, don't know about or reall care about the HP.

 

[donfromnaples]

THANKS SO MUCH FOR THAT LINK!

Just another solid data point on why I feel the CAI / Filter crowd around here are maybe kidding themselves.

The induction system, as ENGINEERED BY FORD, not the belt and suspender people standing around an engine bay, is 100% perfectly adequate.

I will say it again: Buy a CAI for the SOUND, not because you think you are bolting on horsepower. Because you are not. The filter panel that is good for 400hp will be excellent for 300hp. Period. So the KN will net nothing, except dirt in your engine.

"Compared to the AC, the K&N “plugged up” nearly 3 times faster, passed 18 times more dirt and captured 37% less dirt"

Several CAI have been dyno tested pre and post installation showing a net gain of between 12-15 hp across the rpm range. Perhaps, the filter itself yields little when replacing a stock filter on a stock air intake system, but a CAI is a different story. It has been test proven again and again over the years.

 

[Morrillo]

Several CAI have been dyno tested pre and post installation showing a net gain of between 12-15 hp across the rpm range. Perhaps, the filter itself yields little when replacing a stock filter on a stock air intake system, but a CAI is a different story. It has been test proven again and again over the years.

Yeah there is no denying there can be gains but the article is not about HP gain is about the amount of dust particles that get past the filter due to it being less restrictive than other filters.

 

[Morrillo]

Perhaps the grams of dirt they are passing are way more than normal use? Would we ever get to that point on a daily driver?

It would be nice if people with more insight shed light on this. This is a nice question whether the car is exposed to that quantity of dirt particles in normal use or its lifetime.