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think we can take one from about a 40 roll?
if not stock, what do you think we need to keep up or kill one?
Pretty quick those little cars are, but they are hideous :heha:
 

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I'm pretty sure a new 5.0 fully loaded would cost as much as a 135i with zero options, so I wouldn't even make the comparison. A 2011 V6 completely stock is what, 23k out the door? Even the pitiful 128i costs as much as a base GT, if not a bit more. If one edged me out, which I don't think it will once I get a tune, i'll still rejoice knowing I have a N/A V6 and the bimmer has twin-turbos.
 

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well that 135i obviously wasn't stock, and the 5.0 looks like it pretty much was, so my opinion stays the same.
 

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Hate to burst your bubble, but there are reports of otherwise stock 135i's hitting high 11's with an agressive tune. Even a factory tune option was rumored available that adds something to the effect of 30-40hp. Everything I've read seems to suggest those twin turbo motors (provided you didn't get one that had fuel pump failure) are real beasts once they are tweaked.

Here is one thread with a tune, intake, meth and slicks (not tune only but very minimalist IMO)

http://www.n54tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12810

Ran 11.9x at 114mph.
 

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Well I'm saying stock so it shouldn't be running better than mid 13s... My guess is that with the 2.73 rear, 91 octane race tune, and CAI we can keep up especially at higher speeds.
 

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I was aware of this, but IMO tweaking turbos is an aggressive mod when compared with tuning a N/A mustang. I've heard there's some backlash from M3 owners actually because these 135is can be made faster than M3s for a smaller cost overall.
 

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stock for stock from a roll should be close and the bmw should edge the stang out... just don't let them build up too much boost :bigthumbsup
 

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stock for stock from a roll should be close and the bmw should edge the stang out... just don't let them build up too much boost :bigthumbsup
we'll see tomorrow ! :gringreen
ill tell you guys how it goes stock vs stock, then when i get my tune and intake ill update you guys again haha
 
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Awhile back a 135i was playing with me on the interstate and each time he tried to get ahead I could walk past him. Granted I have a CAI and tune but either he was stock and a crappy driver or a 128 with 135 badges.
 

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or a 128 with 135 badges.
Thats what i do with my probe. I stick SS badges on it and go to the Camaro hang outs and nobody can tell the difference. I think its a pretty sweet deal :hihi:.
 

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I had to look up some test numbers to see where the BMW is at.

Mustang v6 Performance Package 1/4 mile - 13.7 @ 107, 45-65 mph - 2.7 seconds.

BMW 135i 1/4 mile - 13.2 @ 105, 45-65 mph - 2.4 seconds.

That alone says the stock V6 won't hang with it off the line or from a roll. The BMW seems to be a little rocket ship. I think a CAI and tune would change the outcome. The 3.73 gear would definitely change things quite a bit. My car with just those three mods pulled hard from a roll.

I've owned several turbo cars in the past. (1993 MR2, 2002 WRX, 2005 STI, 2010 Mazdaspeed3). One thing true with most any turbo is that a simple ECM tune that raises the boost will easily increase HP by as much as 15% or more. Add that to a turboback exhaust and the results are even more impressive. That was my biggest gripe that I had to accept with the Mustang was that the tune didn't add nearly as much as what I was used to seeing on the FI cars. The only car that didn't benefit from a tune that much was the Mazdaspeed because it was direct injection and the ECM is already pushing the car closer to the limit. But on that car just an intake and turbo inlet pipe ($350 total) added around 35 hp.

Ltngdrvr pointed out that the BMW is overpriced which is correct. $45k for one with just a couple options. So if you can hang with something that expensive for $1k then you've already won in about 20 thousand ways. Same thing people said about the Mustang GT/BMW M3 showdown.
 

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im going to have to agree here. even if i hung with the BMW and lost by less than a car length and my car is stock i would still get to laugh cause i spent $20,000 less than him and my car is just sexier :gringreen:gringreen:gringreen. put 10,000 into the car and i could have a procharger with a good tune and some other mods and would smoke him and still be 10,000 less. so its not a true comparison dollar for dollar
 

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For the price of a 135i.. you can supercharge your V6 or swap in a 5.0 and kill it.

but the 135i is a nice car though. I think it looks great in white.
 

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The problem I have with the 135i or M3 for that matter, they look like every other BMW on the road, ho...hmmm. Imagine every mustang looking the same except for color... Bor...ing.
 
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Absolutely. One aspect that drew me to the Mustang (much like Harley) is that the aftermarket is huge and fairly inexpensive for many cosmetic upgrades. A unique Mustang is one that is completely stock lol.
 

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Those Bimmer's are fast, I'm a big fan of the 335i, beautiful car.
Sorry to hijack the thread.

Another car that isn't practical for me, but is one bad-a$$ vehicle
That is the Chrysler Crossfire SRT-6. I don't know the durability, but those suckers are fast. Check out some of the Youtube videos.
The base crossfire looks cool, but is a turtle, throw a supercharger on it and you have the SRT-6. Saw one on the road last week and it pulled really hard.


I'd love for the mustangs in the future to have echo boost turbos and also have a catchy name for the model as well. I know other forum posters have mentioned that as well. Can't wait to see what Ford does, I'm 8 years away from getting a new car, lol
 

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Those Bimmer's are fast, I'm a big fan of the 335i, beautiful car.
Sorry to hijack the thread.

Another car that isn't practical for me, but is one bad-a$$ vehicle
That is the Chrysler Crossfire SRT-6. I don't know the durability, but those suckers are fast. Check out some of the Youtube videos.
The base crossfire looks cool, but is a turtle, throw a supercharger on it and you have the SRT-6. Saw one on the road last week and it pulled really hard.


I'd love for the mustangs in the future to have echo boost turbos and also have a catchy name for the model as well. I know other forum posters have mentioned that as well. Can't wait to see what Ford does, I'm 8 years away from getting a new car, lol
Those SRT 6s have transplated SLK 32 AMG motors in them (320ish hps). Ive seen one run 12 flats at the track (before they closed it down). The only issue I see with them is that they were only available as automatics. They didn't sell well because they were waaaaay overpriced (think Corvette pricing).
 
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