Burnouts on Street tires ... the point?

RLG34750 said:

Or just maybe no one ever explain to him that is was not necessary on street tires.....

The good thing he was racing at the track instead of the street....

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I 100% agree. Everyone starts from the beginning and has to learn. It's very easy to make fun of someone on the track. It take a lot of guts to take it off the street and race safely in public view. I bet his burnout pictures are awsome. Instead of laughing at him why doesn't someone go up to him and ask him why is he doing a huge burnout on street tires?

saber1971 said:

What is everybody laughing at the guy for doing a burnout. ive been bracketracing in street class for years and damn near everyone in street class does burnouts on street tires. you drive through the pits and pick up debris on your tires then you go through the water.

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If you have street tire you really should not go though the water....

on behalf of the guys running slicks......

thanks for dragging water down the track.....:madas:

RLG34750 said:

If you have street tire you really should not go though the water....

on behalf of the guys running slicks......

thanks for dragging water down the track.....:madas:

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have you ever been to more than one drag strip?? some strips you have no choice and thats the way my track is!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! think before you start with the hostilities

saber1971 said:

have you ever been to more than one drag strip?? some strips you have no choice and thats the way my track is!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! think before you start with the hostilities

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I bet i have raced on more tracks than you have read about....

well aware some tracks you have no choice....

my take on you post is you think it is acceptable (general speaking to drive street tires thought the water box)
for those that are not track savvy with regard to protocol....
may base what you said would mean that as the thing to do....

Well if the time ever comes for you to race a car with slicks & you hit water mid track @ 120 mph+ and your tires break loose you will understand my "hostility"

Almost all of the people at the local test and tunes run street tires, and many do John Force style burnouts. I've told many of them already that there is no point, and they're simply wasting their tire life by burning the tread off so much, but they continue to do it.

I've actually seen an AWD Lancer or Impreza go past the waterbox, stop, throw it in reverse, get to about 5-8 miles an hour, and while rolling in reverse throw it in 1st, rev the piss out of it, and drop the clutch. Needless to say he didn't even get to run, with a broken axle laying underneath.

RLG34750 said:

I bet i have raced on more tracks than you have read about....

well aware some tracks you have no choice....

my take on you post is you think it is acceptable (general speaking to drive street tires thought the water box)
for those that are not track savvy with regard to protocol....
may base what you said would mean that as the thing to do....

Well if the time ever comes for you to race a car with slicks & you hit water mid track @ 120 mph+ and your tires break loose you will understand my "hostility"

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the first post never said anything about any water i was just saying if you have to drive through it you should do a burnout to "clean" the tire off water and whatever is in the pit and staging lanes. I've been behind guys that just roll "through" the water and dont do a burnout. that will piss a guy off..talk about leaving water trails. as for your troubles at whatever tracks you race.. dont be mad at the dumbass with street tires backing into the water box be mad at the track official backing him up and letting him go in the water in the first place

I had the same dilemma last time I went I had the car cooling down for almost an hour and a half to give it a hail mary pass on the juice. When I went to the burnout box I noticed the truck in front of me went through without even doing a burnout and tracked water all the way up to the line. Suffice to say I left the juice off that pass and after the pass informed the track official of said genius. Back to the original post there's no point in doing a huge burnout on a regular radial tire, a small one to remove debris or whatever, but a huge one hoping that it'll make the tires "sticky" is pointless if anything it makes the tire hook up worse.

John Force style burnouts are best done by... John Force and 8000 hp. Doing burnouts must be done properly or you'll get pathetic tire life and/or no traction.

Boiling the tires does ZERO for traction. Overheating the tires brings the oils and resins in the rubber to the tread surface, making them slippery rather than sticky. A proper burnout is meant to clean the racing surface and put a little heat in them... not sit there a 1:30 and killing your tires. Unless he was just wanting to put on a burnout contest, he's someone who knows NOTHING about real racing.

Oh yeah, while we're talking street tires... dropping tire pressure on radials also kills your traction. Radials are meant to perform at the prescribed pressure (32-35 psi). Dropping pressure on radials causes the middle of the tread to rise off the surface, thereby causing you to have two thin rubber strips rather than the full tread surface. This is with street radials, they're not bias ply tires that expand when the pressure is lowered. In other words, DON'T lower tire pressure on street radials.

Drag radials are constructed to act like bias ply while giving the strength of steel belted radials.

reg...whats with everyone calling you out..this is like the second time in a week now...


but anyways...one thing i did disagree with is...

i actually noticed a huge difference when i did a burn-out in my street tires.. they are nittos 455s...which are street tires... they hooked 10x better when i did a burn-out. but maybe that was just in my case.

steelers1377 said:

reg...whats with everyone calling you out..this is like the second time in a week now...


but anyways...one thing i did disagree with is...

i actually noticed a huge difference when i did a burn-out in my street tires.. they are nittos 455s...which are street tires... they hooked 10x better when i did a burn-out. but maybe that was just in my case.

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with regard to calling me out

forgive give them for they know not what they do.....

nitto's IMO are strange that way.......

i say if it works do it just don't drive though the water box.....

Clean them ......

get some heat in them

stage

hit the loud pedal......

but with "most" street compounds the john force burnouts are just not needed.....

saber1971 said:

What is everybody laughing at the guy for doing a burnout. ive been bracketracing in street class for years and damn near everyone in street class does burnouts on street tires. you drive through the pits and pick up debris on your tires then you go through the water.

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rlg is right on this one. (and many others)