[Hazey]

The 2018 GT is a legit 11 second car off the showroom floor on stock rubber.
http://www.mustangandfords.com/how-to/engine/1712-running-11s-with-a-factory-stock-2018-mustang-gt/
Up until this point, I've been perfectly content with my '05. I'm quite confident that if I wanted to, I could keep up with a stock '11-'17 GT in every aspect for relatively little coin.
The upgrades made for 2018 might put that out of reach though. My simple drag strip calculator app says a full weight S197 with the stock 3V short block's theoretical safe limit of 450 rwhp gets you an 11.76 at best. That probably requires slicks, loose front suspension and steep gears.
Can we get 11s on real street tires and a handling biased suspension while retaining daily driver reliability without breaking the bank on a built short block?

 

[rangerdoc]

Mid 12s with my sig mods on street tires. Could tune for more, but that would push the engine too close to kaboom.

 

[cman]

Probably could go with a forged bottom end and a wicked up FI setup with some support modds for slightly more than 10k that will probably put you at the end of the 1/4 mile before any 2018 model (35k - 40K) off the showroom floor. Having said that...the 2018 will have all the bells and whistles and I'm sure is a absolute blast to drive. I guess it's up to the individual to decide if it is worth the extra 25K - 30k.
Or another option is to look for a low mileage GT500 and build on that. Really depends on what you want to see yourself with a few years down the road.

 

[Bullitt95]

It all depends on how much you're prepared to spend. You can get to mid-12's with a few bolt ons but getting into the 11's will cost you several thousands. Is it possible? Absolutely yes. Is it worth it? You decide.

 

[baylensmanfl]

Your key point is relatively little coin. Relative to what buying a new car? Or take the equivalent of a couple of payment say $399 x 6 or $2400 dollar and drop in 2 stages of nitrous? or a turbo kit?

 

[squekster]

The 2018 GT is a legit 11 second car off the showroom floor on stock rubber.
Running 11?s with a factory stock 2018 Mustang GT!
Up until this point, I've been perfectly content with my '05. I'm quite confident that if I wanted to, I could keep up with a stock '11-'17 GT in every aspect for relatively little coin.
The upgrades made for 2018 might put that out of reach though. My simple drag strip calculator app says a full weight S197 with the stock 3V short block's theoretical safe limit of 450 rwhp gets you an 11.76 at best. That probably requires slicks, loose front suspension and steep gears.
Can we get 11s on real street tires and a handling biased suspension while retaining daily driver reliability without breaking the bank on a built short block?

I don't know where you are getting your info from but the 2018 Gt runs 12 second 1/4 miles
in stock trim. As for competing with that, any engine can be built to run 11 seconds
and still be completely streetable. Power is expensive but if you consider the cost of upgrading
your 2005 to compete with the 2018 it is relatively inexpensive compaire the the cost of the
new GT.

 

[JBert]

I don't know where you are getting your info from . . . .

from the link that he posted

There are lots of different ways to "compete" so I really don't know how to answer the original question

 

[squekster]

from the link that he posted

There are lots of different ways to "compete" so I really don't know how to answer the original question

It looks like there is conflicting info on this Mustang. Most sites claim 12 seconds.





https://www.mustang6g.com/?p=11924

 

[Bullitt95]

It looks like there is conflicting info on this Mustang. Most sites claim 12 seconds.

https://www.mustang6g.com/?p=11924

This bone stock 2018 Mustang GT with performance pack and 10R80 10-speed automatic transmission ran the 1/4 mile in 12.02 seconds @ 117 MPH (1.90 60′) with the vehicle weight coming in at approximately 4,075-pounds with the driver and fuel.

I don't know what you're arguing about. Throw in a lighter driver, less fuel (maybe 1/4 tank), less weight-adding options, plus a lower DA, and you'll be seeing ~11.8 sec timeslips. With stickier tires and suspension upgrades, mid-11's are possible and that's still without adding a single horsepower.
A 2005 GT could beat that with 450rwhp from a forced induction set-up plus the same tire/suspension upgrades. However, you'll also find yourself upgrading the clutch, tranny, driveshaft, axleshafts, brakes, and radiator 'cause the OEM items weren't built to handle 500+ crank HP. Now ask yourself if it's worth the cost and effort.
If you're planning long-term ownership of the car, you could perform the upgrades in stages. You might even save some money by scavenging good secondhand GT500 items e.g. tranny, driveshaft, front brake rotors/calipers, rear axle with rear brakes included, supercharger unit, intercooler, and radiator/electric fan assembly.

 

[squekster]

I don't know what you're arguing about. Throw in a lighter driver, less fuel (maybe 1/4 tank), less weight-adding options, plus a lower DA, and you'll be seeing ~11.8 sec timeslips. With stickier tires and suspension upgrades, mid-11's are possible and that's still without adding a single horsepower.
A 2005 GT could beat that with 450rwhp from a forced induction set-up plus the same tire/suspension upgrades. However, you'll also find yourself upgrading the clutch, tranny, driveshaft, axleshafts, brakes, and radiator 'cause the OEM items weren't built to handle 500+ crank HP. Now ask yourself if it's worth the cost and effort.
If you're planning long-term ownership of the car, you could perform the upgrades in stages. You might even save some money by scavenging good secondhand GT500 items e.g. tranny, driveshaft, front brake rotors/calipers, rear axle with rear brakes included, supercharger unit, intercooler, and radiator/electric fan assembly.

No argument ,just wondering why some say 11's and others say 12's.
There are a lot of things to factor in when running the 1/4 mile. Track conditions
ambient temp ballast weight ,but one of the biggest factors is the skill of the driver.

 

[Bullitt95]

one of the biggest factors is the skill of the driver.

With the 2018 GT being equipped with a line lock and a fast-shifting 10-speed auto tranny, you don't even need a highly-skilled driver anymore. :lol:

 

[squekster]

With the 2018 GT being equipped with a line lock and a fast-shifting 10-speed auto tranny, you don't even need a highly-skilled driver anymore. :lol:

You are absolutely right.

 

[marylandGT]

"Can a 3 Valve Still Compete?"
Sure.......unless you care about keeping up with the Joneses.

 

[kenv]

Good Thread!!bravo.gif

 

[candersen]

I know the horsepower wars are in full swing with every manufacturer trying to one up the other, but if you can't put it to the ground it doesn't matter. Spin don't win. I remember back in the day a buddy with a supercharged Fox got spanked by a Civic! The most important factor in a race is the driver. That being said, if you love your ride and don't wish to change it for another, then whatever upgrades you do to make you happy are worth it. Don't worry about what the other guy has - at the end of the day it's your ride that puts the stupid grin on your face, not theirs!

 

[ScubaStangXC]

Like was said earlier, it depends on how much money you want to spend. In my opinion though. We are just chasing the wind.

Especially now when 300hp+ is commonplace amongst all manufacturers. 350-400 hp used to be a solid end point for an affordable build that would put you ahead of many on the street. It's still affordable, but it might not put you ahead of so many cars. Not to mention the auto transmission upgrades that pretty much make the manual obsolete. I just try to enjoy what I have, because I am not going to spend the dough for a newer 5.0...yet anyway.

 

[pikapp]

On any given day, at any given time, anything can happen. Someone famous said that...I think, maybe...question.gif It would cost more than worth the while to take a 3V and have it able to compete with the 5.0's. I race against them annually and my 3V is blown + and I see their taillights way more often than I like.

 

[Bullitt95]

I've no intention of adding any more performance mods 'cause I feel my car already has enough power for me to either lose my license or end up in jail. It's hard enough to be restrained with 350+ crank HP, never mind 500 or 600. It's extra HP that I'd never use so there's no point spending big $ chasing it.
My car is mostly a weekend cruiser that I can enjoy driving windows down, feeling like the coolest cat in town, while getting a thumbs up from admiring onlookers. The soundtrack of that 4.6 singing from 3250-6500rpm during a hard pull will always plaster a big grin on my face, and that's really all I need from the car.

 

[Michaelanthony2]

odd question. I do admit I like the new 5.0 but I also dont want that much power. Ive seen way too many idiots on video loose control and destroy their car. what I have now in power after mods is easily controllable.

but if i wanted to beat 5.0s I would buy a light car such as a 79-90 RX-7( cheap) and throw in a v6 or v8. no way would I spend more than the car is worth to make it faster than a new one. seems like a bad move. unless you just have money to burn.

 

[JBert]

. . . . I like the new 5.0 but I also dont want that much power. Ive seen way too many idiots on video loose control and destroy their car. . . .

. . . if i wanted to beat 5.0s I would buy a light car such as a 79-90 RX-7( cheap) and throw in a v6 or v8. . . . . . seems like a bad move. unless you just have money to burn.

It should not be a big problem to keep a Coyote under control, all you have to do is not press so much on the gas pedal; it really isn't complicated. Like you say those are idots who are probably showing off and get themselves in trouble.

Putting a V8 in an RX7 would be an awesome project if you really want one, but yeah you would need a lot of time and some money too.