[1slowstangguy]

Ok, test drove the 5.0 with 3.73 gears, and in it's power band it was a MONSTER! But not as much as I expected anim_peep.gif... The 5.o was very nice , just not worth the extra coin(gas, insurance, and note) and they low balled my trade in. So having decided to keep the V6, its mod time... I will eventually go forced induction(procharger, or turbo if an easy tune bolt-up system comes out in a year or so).

So with that in mind, gears are off the table, as 3.31 should be almost perfect with a turbo or procharger, so I need some mods to help hold me over. Which intake is the best since I will go forced induction?

COLD AIR/OPEN FILTER ELEMENT: Yes, I have searched already lol!! SO here is the issue. I already have BBK shorty headers, BAMA tune, and was thinking of the STEEDA or AIR Raid? The AIR raid looks good and has great reviews, but no tune required. The STeeda has the larger housing and once FI is applied , wouldn't it be able to use the greater airflow supplied? I also want the sound from removing all the baffles and other sound deadening too. Thoughts?

Secondly, I need the AM rep to shoot me over the new code, as I am also going to order a new shifter knob, some headlights, and maybe some lowering springs. Do we have a new REP?

HEADLIGHTS: I don't know much about this one. I don't want to change out the entire assembly of ballast and all, just have some cool blue HID's if possible. I like the parking lights/turn signals where they are and don't want to lose them. Any pics or advice is greatly appreciated.

Lastly, what are the next mods if gears are off the table? Still have the stock mid-pipe and over axle piping(I don't think the larger cat back piping will help since I need CATS in Texas,, and the 3.7 seems back pressure sensitive don't wanna lose torque). ARE hi-flow cats worth the expense? Still have the stock driveshaft too. I only want to spend about 1,200 on mods before everything else goes to the procharger for next year. Going to Keep my itty bitty 17"ers for a while too lol! Again any help is greatly appreciated...respekt.gif

 

[Greyhoundman]

I would leave the engine mods alone until you pull the trigger on FI, and until then go for, in no particular order, tires, shifter or drive shaft.

 

[marylandGT]

What about underneath? Maybe upgrade the suspension so it'll put down your new found power next year. Also along those lines, how do your tires look? Just throwin out some thoughts here.

 

[PW_Pony]

Ok, test drove the 5.0 with 3.73 gears, and in it's power band it was a MONSTER! But not as much as I expected anim_peep.gif... The 5.o was very nice , just not worth the extra coin(gas, insurance, and note) and they low balled my trade in. So having decided to keep the V6, its mod time... I will eventually go forced induction(procharger, or turbo if an easy tune bolt-up system comes out in a year or so).

So with that in mind, gears are off the table, as 3.31 should be almost perfect with a turbo or procharger, so I need some mods to help hold me over. Which intake is the best since I will go forced induction?

COLD AIR/OPEN FILTER ELEMENT: Yes, I have searched already lol!! SO here is the issue. I already have BBK shorty headers, BAMA tune, and was thinking of the STEEDA or AIR Raid? The AIR raid looks good and has great reviews, but no tune required. The STeeda has the larger housing and once FI is applied , wouldn't it be able to use the greater airflow supplied? I also want the sound from removing all the baffles and other sound deadening too. Thoughts?

Secondly, I need the AM rep to shoot me over the new code, as I am also going to order a new shifter knob, some headlights, and maybe some lowering springs. Do we have a new REP?

HEADLIGHTS: I don't know much about this one. I don't want to change out the entire assembly of ballast and all, just have some cool blue HID's if possible. I like the parking lights/turn signals where they are and don't want to lose them. Any pics or advice is greatly appreciated.

Lastly, what are the next mods if gears are off the table? Still have the stock mid-pipe and over axle piping(I don't think the larger cat back piping will help since I need CATS in Texas,, and the 3.7 seems back pressure sensitive don't wanna lose torque). ARE hi-flow cats worth the expense? Still have the stock driveshaft too. I only want to spend about 1,200 on mods before everything else goes to the procharger for next year. Going to Keep my itty bitty 17"ers for a while too lol! Again any help is greatly appreciated...respekt.gif

The whole cat thing in Texas is on a county by county basis. In my county there are no emissions and they don't check for catalytic converters.

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[LILPWNY]

If you are for sure going FI, skip the CAI as it would be replaced completely.

Also if going supercharger you'll want a new mid pipe, any on the market should work. Turbo will most likely replace your exhaust manifolds and midpipe, depends on the turbo. So best not to waste money on mods that will be replaced by future mods.

 

[powerwhee]

You will benefit from 3.73 with a procharger set up. The v6 is not exactly a torque monster, and getting it through the revs helps alot. My v6 with its mods pulls low 4 second 0-60's. I think gears should be your next mod. I don't know where you got the idea that the 3.31 gears are perfect for a FI application, maybe on the v8, but the v6 needs to get up into the higher revs to make decent power.

 

[cusestang]

Drop that stang with eibach pro, a couple hundred well spent. Shifter and driveshaft should eat up the rest. Or new tires and rims for the whole wad.

 

[AMWill]

Ok, test drove the 5.0 with 3.73 gears, and in it's power band it was a MONSTER! But not as much as I expected anim_peep.gif... The 5.o was very nice , just not worth the extra coin(gas, insurance, and note) and they low balled my trade in. So having decided to keep the V6, its mod time... I will eventually go forced induction(procharger, or turbo if an easy tune bolt-up system comes out in a year or so).

So with that in mind, gears are off the table, as 3.31 should be almost perfect with a turbo or procharger, so I need some mods to help hold me over. Which intake is the best since I will go forced induction?

COLD AIR/OPEN FILTER ELEMENT: Yes, I have searched already lol!! SO here is the issue. I already have BBK shorty headers, BAMA tune, and was thinking of the STEEDA or AIR Raid? The AIR raid looks good and has great reviews, but no tune required. The STeeda has the larger housing and once FI is applied , wouldn't it be able to use the greater airflow supplied? I also want the sound from removing all the baffles and other sound deadening too. Thoughts?

Secondly, I need the AM rep to shoot me over the new code, as I am also going to order a new shifter knob, some headlights, and maybe some lowering springs. Do we have a new REP?

HEADLIGHTS: I don't know much about this one. I don't want to change out the entire assembly of ballast and all, just have some cool blue HID's if possible. I like the parking lights/turn signals where they are and don't want to lose them. Any pics or advice is greatly appreciated.

Lastly, what are the next mods if gears are off the table? Still have the stock mid-pipe and over axle piping(I don't think the larger cat back piping will help since I need CATS in Texas,, and the 3.7 seems back pressure sensitive don't wanna lose torque). ARE hi-flow cats worth the expense? Still have the stock driveshaft too. I only want to spend about 1,200 on mods before everything else goes to the procharger for next year. Going to Keep my itty bitty 17"ers for a while too lol! Again any help is greatly appreciated...respekt.gif

1slowstangguy,

I see some of your questions have been already answered, but I'll run threw each question anyways-

CAI- if you're planning to use a centrifugal supercharger or Turbo, than any CAI designed for your stock engine won't carry over. You'll need a different CAI for when the boost arrives!

For forced induction, we've personally had a killer experience with the Procharger centrifugal supercharger kits. We used this same kit on our 2011 v6 a while back and were the first ones to break into the 11's with the "new" (at the time) 3.7L platform.

Forum Discount Code- normally we ask that members with 50+ posts PM us directly to request the code. However, I just shot you a PM with the code anyways.

If we carried HID's, I'd love to help you out. Unfortunately we don't at the moment. Although, I know there's some other vendors that do here. I believe Diode Dynamics is one of them!

Highflow cats a definitely worth the expensive if you don't have the option of using a catless mid-pipe. You'll pick up significant power by upgrading the catalytic converters with a boosted engine!

I driveshaft will be necessary if you plan on driving the car aggressively from low MPH or a launch at the drag strip. Normally people are okay with the stock DS when they only want to cruise. However, when you're pushing a lot more power with a supercharger through the stock DS, I'd personally take the precaution of an upgraded DS.

Hopefully this info helps clear up some of your questions. Let me know if you have any others!

Shane

 

[1slowstangguy]

Thanks everyone ! It looks like my options are now , driveshaft, or save the extra coin I was going to spend on minor mods for the procharger! After further research , it looks like my hopes of a turbo 3.7 have been killed by the complexity , and cost of tuning it....duh.gif!!

 

[krnxboyxjoe]

Well there is a turbo kit out that's $5000 and is made in Texas, It boasts a 3 hr install and roughly 450 hp and torque depending on tunes and mods it could be higher.

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[1slowstangguy]

Now that is what I was looking for!! You may have just saved me !! The procharger is nice , but eats too much of the torque the fi makes , basically putting me at minor bolt on 5.0 numbers! Turbo seems the only way to truly get your money's worth on 3.7's. More research to do, but 5000 minus injectors and boost controler , and this kit is very attainable !!! Thanx!!saluting-us-flag.gif:worship!

 

[PW_Pony]

Now that is what I was looking for!! You may have just saved me !! The procharger is nice , but eats too much of the torque the fi makes , basically putting me at minor bolt on 5.0 numbers! Turbo seems the only way to truly get your money's worth on 3.7's. More research to do, but 5000 minus injectors and boost controler , and this kit is very attainable !!! Thanx!!saluting-us-flag.gif:worship!

I still have yet to see a reliable turbo kit for the 3.7. Not saying your motor will pop too, but just know you're going into somewhat uncharted waters. Research it a lot before you jump in.

The PC might not make as much power, but it is proven and reliable. A few of AFM's members daily drive their PC'd 3.7s. You can get a complete kit for $5k-5.5k, maybe cheaper. It includes everything you need except your supporting mods, which you'll need with a turbo too.

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[jsimmons]

The whole cat thing in Texas is on a county by county basis. In my county there are no emissions and they don't check for catalytic converters.

But he's in Houston, where they apparently do smog checks.

 

[jsimmons]

To the OP, converting to HIDs (or any other cosmetic mod) is not going to help your car's performance, and IMHO is a huge waste of cash right now. Save your money for a ProCharger if you really think you want one... and brakes.

See if BBK makes a 2.5-inch catted x-pipe for your headers. I have their long tubes and have both their catted and their off-road x-pipe. I'm currently using the catted pipe. I also went with the Magnaflow Street cat-back exhaust (2-1/2inch stainless all the back).

Gears are certainly NOT off the table. I have 3.73's in my V6, and the car really scoots. I have no problem at all smokin' the tires.

I'm personally not a believer in forced induction, and don't believe that the added expense, increase in under-hood heat, or potential problems is worth the time and money involved. I think you would be better served with a complete suspension, brake, and tire/wheel upgrade, along with long-tube headers, a CAI, an "improved" intake, and a killer custom tune.

More advice - if you want to get a GT, sell your V6 yourself, and then go to the dealer with the cash, and then go buy a certified used car. Certified cars have better warranties than new cars do (how stupid is that?), and generally cost less as well.

 

[jsimmons]

Now that is what I was looking for!! You may have just saved me !! The procharger is nice , but eats too much of the torque the fi makes , basically putting me at minor bolt on 5.0 numbers! Turbo seems the only way to truly get your money's worth on 3.7's. More research to do, but 5000 minus injectors and boost controler , and this kit is very attainable !!! Thanx!!saluting-us-flag.gif:worship!

The turbo mentioned ALSO only puts you at "minor 5.0 bolt-on numbers", and it will probably take longer to spool up than the ProCharger. I believe Vortech may also make a FI kit of some kind. You may as well check them out. And before you decide on a system, see if you can find a performance/reliability comparison between the competing systems. $6k is a lot of scratch to drop on something without performing some due diligence.

The 3.7 block is fairly weak as far as performance goes (that's why they use the 3.5 for eco-boost instead of the 3.7). The block can't stand the pressure at levels much higher than 450hp. Yes, you can get a forged bottom end, and yes, you can certainly do things to make more power, but the block itself is the weak link here.

 

[PW_Pony]

The turbo mentioned ALSO only puts you at "minor 5.0 bolt-on numbers", and it will probably take longer to spool up than the ProCharger. I believe Vortech may also make a FI kit of some kind. You may as well check them out. And before you decide on a system, see if you can find a performance/reliability comparison between the competing systems. $6k is a lot of scratch to drop on something without performing some due diligence.

The 3.7 block is fairly weak as far as performance goes (that's why they use the 3.5 for eco-boost instead of the 3.7). The block can't stand the pressure at levels much higher than 450hp. Yes, you can get a forged bottom end, and yes, you can certainly do things to make more power, but the block itself is the weak link here.

I was under the impression that the 3.5 and 3.7 share the same block, but the heads are different.

Also our member SoloBusa was quite a bit beyond 500 hp on the stock block and it was a wrist pin that went, not the block. Usually what seems to go are the wrist pins or the piston rings. The block is usually fine.

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[1slowstangguy]

To the OP, converting to HIDs (or any other cosmetic mod) is not going to help your car's performance, and IMHO is a huge waste of cash right now. Save your money for a ProCharger if you really think you want one... and brakes.

See if BBK makes a 2.5-inch catted x-pipe for your headers. I have their long tubes and have both their catted and their off-road x-pipe. I'm currently using the catted pipe. I also went with the Magnaflow Street cat-back exhaust (2-1/2inch stainless all the back).

Gears are certainly NOT off the table. I have 3.73's in my V6, and the car really scoots. I have no problem at all smokin' the tires.

I'm personally not a believer in forced induction, and don't believe that the added expense, increase in under-hood heat, or potential problems is worth the time and money involved. I think you would be better served with a complete suspension, brake, and tire/wheel upgrade, along with long-tube headers, a CAI, an "improved" intake, and a killer custom tune.

More advice - if you want to get a GT, sell your V6 yourself, and then go to the dealer with the cash, and then go buy a certified used car. Certified cars have better warranties than new cars do (how stupid is that?), and generally cost less as well.

Thanks for the reply , but HID's are not something I want... I just want a brighter set of bulbs in the "cool blue" temperature range(I just realized that cool could have been mistaken for "cool that's awesome " cool lol)...

No offense but ironic, a Shelby tribute car owner, doesn't believe in boost lol. The procharger is definitely proven, but I have yet to see one make close to 400w/torque on 8lbs of boost. With a correct turbo, I'm assuming that you could get very close Hp AND Tq to the wheels WITH LESS Boost! 6lbs from a good turbo would be enough for me! And besides , I'm already just one of the heard having a v6 Mustang, might as well be different and have a turbo V6.

Ps- Most 5.0's I've seen dyno(YouTube and posted here) are only(only lol) 380-390 HP and 350-380 torque. A 3.7 with 6lbs from a turbo might net 400hp/400+tq!! Who wants some bat.gif lol!

 

[PW_Pony]

I think Solo is hitting around 500 ft lbs on his turbo build on 6 or 7 lbs, but he has a completely built motor and a sponsor with deep pockets.

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[1slowstangguy]

^^^ This exactly!! Less boost and all torque hitting from 6lbs by something like 2500 rpms in a V6 would be a V8's nightmare, or at least make some of them cry when the little brother flies past bat.gif lol.

 

[PW_Pony]

^^^ This exactly!! Less boost and all torque hitting from 6lbs by something like 2500 rpms in a V6 would be a V8's nightmare, or at least make some of them cry when the little brother flies past bat.gif lol.

But he also has a completely built bottom end.

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