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Hey guys! Will be looking to purchase my power adder when my car is paid off next winter, but after looking at Novi 2200 for awhile, I think I have narrowed it to one of the Intake-mount SC's. My two choices would be the 2 listed in the title. I can see the difference in appearance, and I see that the Edelbrock is more money. What other factors do you guys know of that I should take into account when looking at these two only..pros and cons of each (compared to each other). I dont expect it to be night and day difference, but Im sure there are a few things some of you know that I Can learn from :bigthumbsup

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The Edelbrock produces similar power on less boost and the long intake runners should provide improved low and mid range power. The only negative from my perspective is that it is butt ugly, just a step above the magnesen in appearance. Having said that, it is on my consideration list along with the roush and frpp.
 

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The Edelbrock produces similar power on less boost and the long intake runners should provide improved low and mid range power. The only negative from my perspective is that it is butt ugly, just a step above the magnesen in appearance. Having said that, it is on my consideration list along with the roush and frpp.
The "butt ugly" is subjective, but I am BIG on looks (want to do some car shows). IDK why you yourself are considering that one if it's more$$ and ugly. Any data on one being better than the other on MPG? Ive heard conflicting reports that under normal driving you actually SAVE on fuel.

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I don't have one yet but I'm going to get either the roush or the Ford Racing supercharger within the next six months..... Most likely the roush 575 kit. I like the way it looks and it has more power than you will ever need on a regular basis.
 

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I have researched superchargers up and down for months on end everything I came up with overall nothing beat the Kennebell manmouth it won in looks by far, performance was almost the best, sound wins. performance can only be the centrifical superchargers you just cant beat them but they are ugly and sound bad. Seen several roush they are nice but also stuffing in the heat as most top mount superchargers do, thats where kennebell wins with their intercooler system one of the better top mounted systems, the edelbrock has only one good point from what ive found that is not having to have much psi to create power that is nice but not enough. Whipple is nice but not cheap. Good luck hate to say it but the best is going to be the crappy sounding one, centrifical they cool the air before stuffing it into your engine, the best feature for damn sure.
 

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Appreciate the feedback but wanted to keep this post on topic. I was afraid asking this question would lead to opinions about other SC's. Ive pretty much ruled out the Centri for now due to losing my CS fogs and cutting up the bumper. KB is not the best looking IMO, and is also not as easily available nor is it one of the lower priced SC's. Not sure what makes that one any better for what you are paying for.
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The Edelbrock produces similar power on less boost and the long intake runners should provide improved low and mid range power.
This is not exactly true. The problem with comparing rated power per psi is that the 'kits' do not all ship with the same pulley offerings as is listed on say their website or from a vendor. Also, the power an actually consumer will get relies on the tune and not necessarily from the amount of boost or mechanical design.


...centrifical they cool the air before stuffing it into your engine, the best feature for damn sure.

This is incorrect. All superchargers compress the air inside the intake manifold creating boost. This compression heats the air due to the law of thermodynamics. The only way to fight this is to install in intercooler, which all available supercharger setups have. So they are on a somewhat level playing field regarding heat.

You can go in to differences between air-to-air and air-to-water but that is another conversation.



OP, the Edelbrock E-Force does not require the engine's front cover be modified whereas the Roush does. You can take that into account when deciding.
 

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The "butt ugly" is subjective, but I am BIG on looks (want to do some car shows). IDK why you yourself are considering that one if it's more$$ and ugly. Any data on one being better than the other on MPG? Ive heard conflicting reports that under normal driving you actually SAVE on fuel.

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The only reason I am considering the Edelbrock is because I feel it would be easier on the engine in the long term due to operating at less boost. As far as MPG, I don't care about that but think either one would not be significantly different. I think that would be more affected by the tune.
 

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I looked at both, and ended up going with the Roush

To me the Edelbrook is a awesome system, but it is allways going to look aftermarket, where the roush looks like it could have come from the factory

Yes the edelbrook may may make the same power with a little less boost. I have no issues with it at all, pulls awesome from idle right to the redline. My fuel milliage is pretty much the same as before

Since your in Florida, call VMP and talk to them, maybe even visit them and and check out there operation
 

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Thanks guys..I did not know the front engine cover had to be modded, but dont know how much that will affect the decision.

Don: I think the Roush goes great with Autos.
1. what is your MPG right now and do you have stock gears?
2. at what boost is the HP in your sig, and what was the tq?
3. do you think there is some more room to get a little more even without going crazy on boost (maybe via tune) or is that system at its limits?
4. Have you noticed changed in Engine temps(if you're able to measure that..I have the scan gauges)?

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I looked at both, and ended up going with the Roush

To me the Edelbrook is a awesome system, but it is allways going to look aftermarket, where the roush looks like it could have come from the factory

Yes the edelbrook may may make the same power with a little less boost. I have no issues with it at all, pulls awesome from idle right to the redline. My fuel milliage is pretty much the same as before

Since your in Florida, call VMP and talk to them, maybe even visit them and and check out there operation
I know nothing about which is better but I agree. The Roush looks so much better under the hood. Have you taken yours to the track? If so, what times are you running.
 

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IMHO, the Roush TVS with VMP tunes have a track record (pun) of delivering 10 second ET's with just the blower kit and sticky tires.

My car gets the same mpg it did stock, and it drives like a stock GT until you dig into the throttle.

It looks better too....
 

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My Roush is being installed this week. I discussed blower selection with my engine builder and my tuner. Cost was not a factor in my decision, performance was. Their recommendation was Whipple or Roush for my driving style. The only negatives they had about the Edlebrock was the appearance and the fact they had not had as much success getting hp and torque from the Edlebrock as from the Roush and Whipple models. All are quality products and you will be well served by either :bigthumbsup

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Thanks guys...I have my $300 engine cover that makes my engine bay look really nice and clean. Removing that for any TVS blower would expose the wires (which is only a concern when I go to a car show). Im hoping someobody makes some kind of decorative cover to help that. Until then that will NOT prevent me from getting the Roush.

1. Does anyone know if I can keep my aftermarket STB (shown in photo).

2. Can I keep my Steeda CAI or tube/filter or is it worthless with the Roush?

3. B Square: When you post your threads with your install info and results, can you put the link to the thread back in this thread so Im sure not to miss it?

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The Edelbrock produces similar power on less boost and the long intake runners should provide improved low and mid range power.
That is ad copy bullpucky.:nogrinner

I have researched superchargers up and down for months on end everything I came up with overall nothing beat the Kennebell manmouth
You need to do more research then.:winks

performance was almost the best
There are a lot of ways to skew "Performance" and KB is famous for it.:nono:
P.S. I have a KB

sound wins.
Debatable.

Seen several roush they are nice but also stuffing in the heat as most top mount superchargers do, thats where kennebell wins with their intercooler system one of the better top mounted systems,
Incorrect, KB intercoolers are one of the worst out there.

the edelbrock has only one good point from what ive found that is not having to have much psi to create power
Again, AD copy bullpucky.

centrifical they cool the air before stuffing it into your engine, the best feature for damn sure.
I don't think you understand how superchargers work. Sorry.

The only reason I am considering the Edelbrock is because I feel it would be easier on the engine in the long term due to operating at less boost.
Again, another victim of AD copy bullpucky.:D

Yes the edelbrook may may make the same power with a little less boost.
Nope, it doesn't.:nogrinner
 

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If you talk to the folks at Brenspeed, they will pick a Roush over Edelbrock,mainly because you have more airflow through the Roush (air comes in the full width of the supercharger in the Roush vs. only half as wide in the front drive/front inlet Edelbrock S/C.

I'm waiting to see when Ford Racing will come out with a TVS supercharger (maybe they will private label Roush's instead of Whipple's). That will look even better (or even use the SVT S/C out of the GT500).
 

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If you have to choose between those two hands down Roush is the better one and if you call your dealer they can check if roush makes a kit for your car that your dealer can instal and you would have a warranty still. make damn sure you have a good tune if you own a gt then your pistons are not forged.
 

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One thing i noticed was roush ships plugs with theirs... Kb did not. And that cost me another 150. But they did cover injectors fuel pump etc... Everything i needed to complete the install except plugs and antifreeze

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Roush and Edelbrock are my favorites. But I'd also go for Roush. I agree that Edelbrock is just so damn ugly. Several tuners and performance shops had great success pushing Roush SC all the way to 700hp at 10psi as apparently, it responds extremely well to tuning, CAI and bigger TB. For the moment, I can't keep my eyes off of Evolution Performance's Roush 650hp package at 9Psi. It delivers the same power as Brenspeed package but at less pSI and less money.
 

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You guys are way to concerned with boost. Boost is only a representation of restriction. For example, stock mufflers will "make" more boost than race type mufflers will. The performance of the blower or "how hard" it is on the motor doesn't change.

A good measure of blower performance is blower speed. You want the slowest blower speed you can get for any given HP level. Lower blower speeds create less heat and have less parasitic loss (more efficent).:bigthumbsup
 
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