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Hi all,

After some comparing of the new Chargers and the new Mustangs, I have decided to get a Mustang.

I have $30k to spend. First question, new or used?
If used I need one with low mileage for lots of warranty miles left. I'd like a black one, and this one seems nice: 06 GT, for around $24k. I would have a few bucks then to spend on exhaust, rims, and maybe a hood scoop or some other mods. However I have a concern in regards to this that I would like your input on:
1. I'm not very comfortable doing a whole bunch of mods to the car.. Will it void any warranties?
2. I can't do it myself so Id have to have someone do it for me. Is it easy to install hood and/or side scoops? How much will it cost in the end? Who can help me with it?
3. Won't 3rd party rims (20") mess up the driveability and finetuning that Ford did to the car with the stock wheels?

Because of these issues, as well as warranty issues, I'm considering getting a new one that looks nice right out of the shop. Like this one: 08 GT, for around $29k. It has the hood scoop (fake?), and decent wheels. THen I'll have a nice one right away without the worries of buying used.

What do you all say? All advice and input is greatly appreciated.

Thanks!
 

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Welcome... That 06 looks pretty good. The mods you want to do won't do anything to the warranty. As you get more involved, you can run into problems. Hood and side scoops are fairly straight forward. Especially for the stick-on ones. 20" rims will yield a rougher ride.

The 2008 will give you a couple more years of warranty. Those are stock polished 18s on that car.
 

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Okay, going to try this again. Welcome to AFM we are glad you are here. Let me see if I can help with an issue or two, although there are so many knowlegeable folks here, that you will get some good answers. So keep your questions coming.

First, when talking used vs. new....well that is an age old question. IMHO, I always go new, I just do not want someone else's headache....but there is an advantage to a low mileage used one...price.

As a general rule, mods wil not necessarily void your warranty. For a mod to void your warranty, the mod has to be part of the system that failed. For example, a new hood scoop would not void the powertrain warranty, but may void the paint warranty on the hood. Plus some mods are easily reverseable.

As for side scoops and hood scoop. They run about $150+ for a hood scoop and about $250 for side scoops. You can add about $100 to them for prepainted ones. The attach using 3M double sided tape. You can install them your self or have a body shop do it. The factory hood scoop is indeed fake.

No, third party rims will not hamper driveablity. Many of us, me included, have 20" wheels. Yes, the ride can be rougher, but that is due to lower sider walls. As long as the wheels are the right offset and do not rub, you are good. With minimal suspension upgrades you can improve the handling even with larger wheels.

The best mod to get is a CAI and tune...best value for the buck. If you are into looks, wheels and scoops are nice. If sound is your thing, exhaust is the way to go.

So there you go, I hope this helps.
 

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I think you can do better than 24k for an 06. Keep looking. There are some near me that are newer and very close to your price range with only minimal mileage.There are several 07's and I have seen a few 08's for around 26K, with no more than 2,000 miles.And these are loaded. Just look at cars.com in your area.They are out there.
 

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a general rule of thumb with mods and warranty issues. like if you get new mufflers, they won't be covered under warranty because they are not stock. but if the mod is proven to be the cause, the warranty will not cover it. but don't worry, there are not that many issues with the new S197 mustang that will require you to get warranty work. i have had mine for 7 months now, and other than a crooked fuel door thanks to the gas attendants, i have nothing wrong with my stallion :)
 

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Finding exactly what you want in a used car can be difficult. I know, I tried. But, expand your search to surrounding states and see what you find. My car was on a dealers lot in Salt Lake.

New vs. used is always a tough choice. The car will take an immediate hit of $1-2K in value as soon as you sign the paperwork. But, Ford has a $1500 incentive/rebate going for the next 10 days. In another month or two they'll have another incentive of some kind. So, be patient if you want new.

If you're real specific about what you want, you may have to wait a while for exactly the right car to come up for sale. If you happen to come across a used car with exactly the options you want, don't pass it up. Make an offer. But, again, be patient.

Used cars can be a real bargain. People often spend big bux to modify their new cars - CAI, exhaust, wheels, scoops, etc. When you sell a car you've modded, you'll be lucky to get half of your investment back. OTOH, those mods may have been done by a retarded monkey with 4 left feet. So always check on the quality of those mods - instakllation and parts selection.

If you're the kind of person who keeps a car for a long time, a new is your best bet. But if you only keep the car for a few years, you'll lose a lot of money buying new.

1. Certain mods will void certain parts of the warrenty. Read through the Moss-Magnusen Warrenty Act.

3. Some mods can indeed screw up a perfectly good car. I would put 20" rims in that catagory, others would not.
 

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If you not going to do major Warranty Killing Mods, I would go new and enjoy it.
 

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I am one to tell you to save some money, invest it and cool it for awhile.
Rereading your post I get the feeling you will probably keep the car for awhile, if you get an 08, you will get exactly what you want, probably drive it and enjoy it without doing a lot, if any mods, except some minor cosmetics. I would say, buy an 08 you like. Others here will probably know, but if there is a factory scoop - have them install it. The rest of the minor mods I believe you can install yourself or have someone help you.

You will find, over time, there are many people here all with varying opinions and there are those who are extremely knowledgeable so when you disassemble your car in a crazy moment at 2AM, they can tell you how to put it back together piece by piece with no left over parts.

It is a good group and Mr. Vandermey is "THE" specialist on "CLEAN". Never, never tell him you have a dirty car.

Good luck.
 

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Get the brand new car. Even though there are less mods and more money it is still brand new.

I personally would not get one with the Xenon or Roush Hood scoop my opinion is that I do not like them that much. Depending on were you live that 3M tape may or may not last that long. I saw my friends Black mustang (reason I say black is because it absorbs heat more) all most lose his Xenon hood scoop in Fresno, Ca were it gets 106 degrees in the summer.

Get a functional hood. allot more $ but cooler in the long run. They will run you about 500-600 and cost about the same 500-600 to paint and install. The Louvers/Scoops can be installed by your self as long as you have a steady hand and a good eye. Not a mod you want to be drinking beer with when you install lol haha. Grab a buddy when doing this 4 eyes are better then two.

Warrentys are different from people to people. Me I through mine out before it was even up, but I am sick in the head and a mod freak. You might want to save up a little more money and buy your self a Bullet. They are a really nice car and seems that it will give you exactly what you are looking for out of the box.

You also wont have to worry about doing to much to it sense it comes with some good mods. I think the only thing I would change on it would be the intake elbow just to get a more free flowing elbow, but I am not sure if they have them for the Bullet yet.

The Shelby GT is a nice car as well but I would rather have the bullet. Shelby's tend to be a little over priced as well. I am not talking about the GT500 so dont get that confused.

As for the 20's they wont change much of your drivability there are TONS of people who drive these cars with 20's. When I went to Knott's last year for Fabulous Fords I think 90% of the S197's had 20's.

I have them on mine but now after learning more about cars I have my eye's on running 15's in the back with a nice sexy huge tire and a 17 up front. I am going for more performance and to me a nice looking tire out weights the rim, but I use to think other wise.
 

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Good choice between the Charger and Mustang.

I was in the same situation, but I was disappointed that they didn't offer a manual version of the Charger and that it only had 4 doors, and that it was a boat, so the choice wasn't a hard one for me. :)
 

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Get an x-plan pin and buy a new 08. I've seen some in the very low 20's
I am ordering mine thru X-plan and I can tell you that low 20s is not available on the GT Premium...at least where I am at. The best I can do with no optional packages WITH the current rebate is right at $25300. Throw taxes on and I am up to $26800. BTW, I couldn't avoid all of the options....got the GTAP and the IUP:bigthumbsup. The price difference between the Deluxe and Premium is about $1200 so you would still be OTD with over $25K unless your sales tax is around 4%. Of course, if you take the 3.9% financing, add $1500 to all numbers above.
 

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I would go new. Your potential mods aren't extreme enough to void any major parts of the warranty. Not something you'd see on a used car.
20's Will yield a rougher ride, but not necessarily compormise safety. At my age, I find the ride stiff enough, so I'm happy to stay with my 17" rims.
 

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I would go new. I would hate to think how a used GT might have been driven. Plus, with rebates and financing, you can get a lot of car for the money.
 

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With the mods you want, I would look at a California Special Mustang. You can get it with a stock hood scoop and the side scoops are standard.
 

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Im new to the forum and new to mustangs, but I will tell you from car sales exp. Mustangs are one of the worst as far as a price drop when you break the curb (drive off the lot for the first time). Used isnt a bad option as long as you get a car fax history and have YOUR mechanic check it out. Any reputable dearler will allow you to take it for a check up. As far as the MODs ive seen a couple 07 Shelby GT's with most of the MOD's that you have mentioned for the price your looking for, just look around a little before you settle on one. (and check with your insurance company about GAP protection before you even step on the lot, your going to want it and a dealership will try and sell it to you for probably far more than your ins. company will). Hope this helps, good luck.
 

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I don't think many people have ever said "I wish I had bought a used Mustang instead of a new one."

Ordering one to be exactly what you want (build it on Ford Vehicles: Ford cars, trucks, SUVs, and crossovers) is very satisfying. You get exactly what you want, but you have to wait. Be patient and wait for it to come in. If you order it now, it will be here in a couple of months, when it is warm and sunny and you can really enjoy it.

Your first sight of the car will be memorable. The first time you goose it to get on the freeway, will be memorable. The first time someone tells you "Cool car, mister." will be memorable. Everytime after that will be just as great.

The first door ding/rock chip will be painful and forgiveness is not easy. I held a grudge against that pebble for months.

The hardest part is behind you. Deciding to buy a Mustang and being able to let go of the money.
 

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New vs. Used

I would go new , enjoy for a yr. or 2 save a couple of bucks then throw some money @ it then its like having a new car all over again. Just my opinion.
 
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....I don't think many people have ever said "I wish I had bought a used Mustang instead of a new one."
I agree 1000% - we've purchased both new and used cars... and new ones far outweigh the used ones as far as our satisfaction is concerned.

Best of luck to you!! KBB - know your figures, know the dealers figures, know the cars true invoice - haggle, haggle, haggle!!! walk away a bunch of times, too and no drooling at the lot! :bigthumbsup:D
 

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Wow, a lot of great information and advice here, thank you all. Really a great community we have here.

I was tempted to go new before and now I am certain. The reason I'm getting a new car is that my previous one (05 Jeep GC) has given me so many headaches and hits to the wallet after the warranty went out (I bought it used), so I would really like to prevent that from happening again.

That said, I don't think I'll have the car for a very long time. And also, since I want to get rid of my Jeep ASAP, I need to get the Mustang ASAP and I don't have time to wait for any special order, I'll have to find something I like in my area and go for it.

Now here is a slightly off-topic question, but I know you guys are knowledgeable so Im going to throw it out there:
I have put 20" rims and a completely new soundsystem in my Jeep (all speakers, head unit replaced, installed two amps and 2x10" sub, done by a professional with warranty). How will this affect the resale value of the car? What will the dealers think about it?

Thanks again!
 
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