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2006 Mustang GT manual. I put on a Bama 87 octane street tune yesterday, and had no problems. Didn't notice much (if any) difference in throttle lag, but I think I can feel a bit more low end torque. No problems.

But today a few minutes after starting it up and leaving the park & ride station, the check engine light and battery light went on, the computer said "low oil pressure", and the oil pressure gauge was at zero. After a few seconds everything went back to normal. I stopped and checked the oil level and it was fine.

Could the low oil pressure and battery alerts have been caused by the tune? Or is it most likely unrelated?
 

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2006 Mustang GT manual. I put on a Bama 87 octane street tune yesterday, and had no problems. Didn't notice much (if any) difference in throttle lag, but I think I can feel a bit more low end torque. No problems.

But today a few minutes after starting it up and leaving the park & ride station, the check engine light and battery light went on, the computer said "low oil pressure", and the oil pressure gauge was at zero. After a few seconds everything went back to normal. I stopped and checked the oil level and it was fine.

Could the low oil pressure and battery alerts have been caused by the tune? Or is it most likely unrelated?
We've never seen a car react like this and it have something to do with tune! This is most likely not related to the tune.

I would imagine it's just a fluke in the system. Sometimes if your car is on a hill, incline/decline or anything along these lines, it will cause all the fluid in your car to rush to one side. This could definitely trigger one or two of these lights!

However, if you'd like us to look into your tune just to be safe we can absolutely do that for you. Also, if you're looking for more throttle response I would recommend going with the Performance or Race tune. The Street tune is going to the be the most calm and easiest pedal!

I hope this helps. Please let me know if you have any questions or need some assistance in the near future! Our Bama Performance tuning specialists are here in the building Monday-Friday from 9AM-5:30PM EST and Saturday 9AM-5:30PM EST. You can hit them up directly at 888.226.9764 and they'll get you squared away!

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We've never seen a car react like this and it have something to do with tune! This is most likely not related to the tune.

I would imagine it's just a fluke in the system. Sometimes if your car is on a hill, incline/decline or anything along these lines, it will cause all the fluid in your car to rush to one side. This could definitely trigger one or two of these lights!

However, if you'd like us to look into your tune just to be safe we can absolutely do that for you. Also, if you're looking for more throttle response I would recommend going with the Performance or Race tune. The Street tune is going to the be the most calm and easiest pedal!

I hope this helps. Please let me know if you have any questions or need some assistance in the near future! Our Bama Performance tuning specialists are here in the building Monday-Friday from 9AM-5:30PM EST and Saturday 9AM-5:30PM EST. You can hit them up directly at 888.226.9764 and they'll get you squared away!

-Dan
Ok if it happens again I'll call

I actually wanted to get an 87 street, 87 performance, and 93 performance tune but the order form only lets you choose one of each type. So I guess I'll call and ask for a 87 performance. It would be cool if they just emailed you all 12 combinations with your order.

Btw when you talk about throttle response do you mean the tune actually reduces lag? Or do you mean that X amount of pedal travel opens the throttle more with the tune?

I just want a linear throttle with instant response like a mechanical one, zero lag. I don't think lag helps the driver in any way, and if anything is dangerous

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Ok if it happens again I'll call

I actually wanted to get an 87 street, 87 performance, and 93 performance tune but the order form only lets you choose one of each type. So I guess I'll call and ask for a 87 performance. It would be cool if they just emailed you all 12 combinations with your order.

Btw when you talk about throttle response do you mean the tune actually reduces lag? Or do you mean that X amount of pedal travel opens the throttle more with the tune?

I just want a linear throttle with instant response like a mechanical one, zero lag. I don't think lag helps the driver in any way, and if anything is dangerous

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You will be much happier with the performance and race tunes. The street tune isn't much better than stock. Also - I would get the 91 performance tune instead of 87. :bigthumbsup
 

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Did you get any rain down your way recently? If so, check for signs of water leaking into the passenger's side footwell(wet/damp carpet, musty smell). This means water may have leaked onto the SJB(smart junction box) located behind the plastic kick panel, which can cause all sorts of screwy electrical problems.
 

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Did you get any rain down your way recently? If so, check for signs of water leaking into the passenger's side footwell(wet/damp carpet, musty smell). This means water may have leaked onto the SJB(smart junction box) located behind the plastic kick panel, which can cause all sorts of screwy electrical problems.
Yes, I'll check for water
 

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You will be much happier with the performance and race tunes. The street tune isn't much better than stock. Also - I would get the 91 performance tune instead of 87. :bigthumbsup
I called Bama to see if I could get a custom tune with as little lag as possible and the guy said that they can't just adjust the lag. He also said that there's not necessarily any lag programmed in by Ford, it's just the nature of the electronic throttle. What they adjust the response of the throttle body to the pedal, but not just the linear-ness of it.

I don't really understand fully... I just wish there was a way to get close to a mechanical throttle. That was the main reason I got the tune, not horsepower. I miss my 1996 E36 BMW with its sports car responses!!
 

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you can buy aftermarket kits that get rid of the "fly by wire" system you currently have. Kit comes complete with everything you need to convert it to cable operated system from the pedal in the cabin out to the TB.....never have had any significant problems with my fly by wire system so never found the need to convert.....
 

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I called Bama to see if I could get a custom tune with as little lag as possible and the guy said that they can't just adjust the lag. He also said that there's not necessarily any lag programmed in by Ford, it's just the nature of the electronic throttle. What they adjust the response of the throttle body to the pedal, but not just the linear-ness of it.

I don't really understand fully... I just wish there was a way to get close to a mechanical throttle. That was the main reason I got the tune, not horsepower. I miss my 1996 E36 BMW with its sports car responses!!
The performance and race tunes have really good throttle response. I drive with the performance tune and get no lag at all. When i first switched it over it felt like if I put a toe tail on the gas peddle pulling out of a drive way it would snap my head back. :D Part of that might be the CAI too.



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...and there's also that controversial DIY mod where you open the pedal's module and move the little brushes so they make contact sooner with the carbon board...



...i think its this one right here: DIY THROTTLE RESPONSE MOD (MUST SEE!) - MustangForums.com
I don't mind the dead zone at all. But I want the throttle to respond as quickly as possible to my inputs.

I googled for mechanical conversion kits but found nothing. That would probably be awesome.

That doesn't confuse the computer though? Does the electronic throttle only modulate the TB? Is fuel controlled according to the MAF just like with a mechanical throttle car?

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The performance and race tunes have really good throttle response. I drive with the performance tune and get no lag at all. When i first switched it over it felt like if I put a toe tail on the gas peddle pulling out of a drive way it would snap my head back. :D Part of that might be the CAI too.



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It sounds like the race tune is just not linear. IE it makes the pedal function like a switch. That's not what I want, I want it to be linear and instant

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I don't mind the dead zone at all. But I want the throttle to respond as quickly as possible to my inputs.

I googled for mechanical conversion kits but found nothing. That would probably be awesome.

That doesn't confuse the computer though? Does the electronic throttle only modulate the TB? Is fuel controlled according to the MAF just like with a mechanical throttle car?

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Have a read through the tread, people did it and it's said to be instant to the touch.
like it being throttle-by-wire...
 

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Have a read through the tread, people did it and it's said to be instant to the touch.
like it being throttle-by-wire...
That's a psychological effect though. The gas pedal is touchy because there's no deadspace, so the driver gets the impression that there's less lag, but there's not.

Here's an experiment to do-- While parked and in neutral, rev the engine to 2000 or 3000 rpm and hold it steady. Let off the pedal as quick as possible. The time between letting off and the rev starting to go down is the lag time
 

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That's a psychological effect though. The gas pedal is touchy because there's no deadspace, so the driver gets the impression that there's less lag, but there's not.

Here's an experiment to do-- While parked and in neutral, rev the engine to 2000 or 3000 rpm and hold it steady. Let off the pedal as quick as possible. The time between letting off and the rev starting to go down is the lag time

It wouldn't hurt to try though, it has something to do with the wires hitting the potentiometer sooner... something others have accomplished by reducing the amount of pedal lift...

Have you tried to put your car in ON, press the accelerator to the ground slowly, (you can hear the throttle control whirr), let go of the accelator, turn the key to off, and then start the car? seems to eliminate some lag...

placebo effect, placebo effect everywhere.
 

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Thought I saw a cable conversion kit at one time, but a search now found the same on the cable system you did...lots of talk about producing a kit.....but never seemed to go any further than wishful thinking..
 
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