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glad you had a good time your 60 feet is what is hurting your time the most rule of thumb for every 1/10th you cut off 60 ft 2/10th off 1/4 mile time so if you get to even 2.0 60 you can be low 14 or better - seat time does it!!!
Yeah, I observed and learned.

Going again in May, from what I learned yesterday I can surely get into the 14's. hope to have some LCA's by then, that should help.

Can't thank everyone on this forum enough for their insight and pointers, it helped me out a bunch.
 

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I gained .3s just from practice alone...

What car is this anyway? A 15.0 seems pretty slow for any 3V GT but it looks like you have a Saleen?
 

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Yeah its a Saleen, I ran pretty slow for what I have. Due to inexperience and the fact that I left my TCS onfacepalm2.gif, I know that I can run better next time. Knowledge is power, and I learned quite a bit for my first time out.

Thanks again for everyone's help.
 

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Yeah, I observed and learned.

Going again in May, from what I learned yesterday I can surely get into the 14's. hope to have some LCA's by then, that should help.

Can't thank everyone on this forum enough for their insight and pointers, it helped me out a bunch.
Traction control off, a more aggressive launch, and some LCAs will definitely put you in the 14s. I wouldn't even rule out 13s with enough practice. But as has been mentioned, the 60-foot time and the DA are both critical.

If you decide to go with UPR control arms, I can help you out with a discount. Let me know if you decide to go that route.
 

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Don't be afraid to shift it hard either ;) quick shifts can really reduce times too...you will get it with practice.

The most important thing for us casual draggers is that we have fun...and it sounds like you did!
 

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Yeah it was a blast, taking my car down the strip for the first time was quite a rush for me.

With the TCS off and no LCA's, should I launch at a lower RPM, say 2000. I get a little chirp on the street when I launch at that. With the track being a lot slicker I don't want to launch to hard and spin at the lights.

On my first run of 15.00, I launched at 2500, I would have had a better time but my dumb ass let of at the first cone of the speed trap. causing my average speed to be 86 MPH. Had I just kept my foot in it would have been in the 14's

On the second run 15.07 I didn't launch as hard and had a worse 60ft time but finished stronger at 97 MPH. TCS was on for both runs

When I go again in May I would like to see how much I can shave off with just some practice.
 

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^ Do not try to dump the clutch and launch. Slip the clutch until you get traction and then gun it and shift hard. On street tires you always want to slip the clutch. In my car, I kind of hang the RPMS around 2k and when the light turns green I feather the throttle and slip the clutch until I get traction and then gun it. My car ran a 14.2 with a 2.0 60ft with 240whp, fat convt chassis, with the worse street tires known to man, and a highway rear end gear of 3.27. You ought to be in the low 13s with the right launch and good shifting. You will get there though :) it takes some feel...
 

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I use to run low 14's with my 93 5.0 with the stock engine in it. But it took a while to get there, but I did it by changing simple things in the whole process. I would suggest getting another set of rims and drag radials, or even better Hoosier Quick Time Pros, and change them at the track. Drive around the water box and back in. This eliminates the fronts from bringing water up to the line so when you launch, your back tires don't spin from the water from the fronts. Point your drivers side rear mirror down so you can see the rear tire so you can see the smoke off the tires. When the starter signals you, rip the tires quick in the water box in 1st gear and roll ahead out of the water box about 4 ft. Shift into 2nd gear, rpms up to 4000 and dump the clutch( I would suggest a line lock) When the tires start to smoke and you feel the rpms bog, let off the line lock and roll out of the burn out. Then pre-stage, and slowly stage. For consistent launches, I would go with 3500-4000 rpms, depending on track prep etc... you may be able to go higher or have to go lower. Let the clutch out as fast as you can, I wouldn't slip it or dump it. Then for your shift points(I would get a shift light) would be a little over your peak horsepower per spec of your engine set-up. For example, my Gt40 crate engine is 5100 rpms and I shift at 5600rpms to keep me in the power band. You will have to experiment to see what yields the best times for you. Shift as consistently and quickly as possible without missing a gear though. It's not easy, but so much fun. I don't know if you are bracket racing or just seeing how fast you can go for times? In bracket racing you want to be able to run the same et every time. That's what wins races. And reaction times. Best bet for reaction times is not to watch the tree go down. Look at the yellow light before the green and leave when you see it flash. That way you are not anticipating the tree which results in a red light most of the time. have fun! Hope this helps.
 

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A 2.0 60' on street tires is good and you can definitely get it. Like mentioned, you slip the clutch. As your car starts to rolls, still slipping the clutch and giving it gas. As soon as the clutch is almost all the way out and you still have traction, gun it. And this will happen fast and once you get the feel for it, it will come easier. I want to say my 05 mustang gt with k&n filter and axle back exhaust ran a 14.0 or 14.1 with a 2.0 60'. I know with a few mods, brenspeed tune and still a 2.0 and it ran low 13's. Later on I got stage 3 cams and with a 1.9 it ran a 12.9. I remember being happy it finally hit 12's.
And if you are going for time, forget reaction time. It could turn green, sit there for a minute and still get a 2.0 60' and run your normal time. Clock doesn't start till you trip that beam. I always let the other car take off first so I can focus on my launch.
If your are asked to race or race a friend, then you want to have the better reaction time. Though try not to spin or miss a shift so that you hopefully win.
But a lot of guys focus on the reaction time and feel the need they have to race the guy beside them. Just remember.

And have fun.
 

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Well its been almost a year since I started this thread. Been to the track three more times since then.

I think part of the problem is the track itself, its an old airport runway with a 200' improved launch pad, not an actual drag strip. There is also elevation, and heat. it's 2500-3000 feet and average temps on race day are from 75-90 degrees. Not making excuses, still have lots to learn.

So far I have made a personal best of 14.73 @ 93 MPH. .3 seconds off just by showing up, so with more practice it will get better. Unfortunatley on March 12th and 13th will be the last time that they will hold races at the current facility, and I really don't want to drive to Las Vegas to race.

My goal now is 14.50, and I will take it from there. Cheers to everyone for tips and pointers :smile:
 
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