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I scared myself a little yesterday.

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I was running late, and pulled up to a T intersection that sees a surprising amount of traffic for a rural area. From the west side of the little town it serves, this road is the only way to get to that town. If you need to make a left turn like I needed to do, you often times have to wait a while for traffic to clear.

So, I'm waiting to make my left turn, and as usual, less than courteous drivers who don't use a turn signal until the last second make it even more difficult to pick a spot.

I see an opening forming, and I'm getting ready to go, when this jagoff in a POS Jeep pulls up to make a right turn, and of course, runs right to the end of the road which blocks my view of traffic to my right. The opening I was going to take for my left turn was iffy at best, so rather than risk a blind left turn in my 2 week old Mustang, I elected to wait on the turn. Now I'm getting frustrated, I'm even more late, and I'm about to drive angry.

Up until now, I have been taking it easy on the engine, and making sure I vary the rpm's for break in. So far, no WOT, or redline. In fact, in 700 miles since new, I've yet to go over 5K rpm's.

A spot opens for the turn, and I really put my foot into it. As the rev's climb past 3K, the car is starting to take off. At this point, I'm still on the upside of the crown of the road I'm turning on to. This is a county road, so they are crowned pretty good for rain and snow run off. As I crest the top of the crown, and start "down hill" on the crown into my lane, the car is really starting to pull, and the rpm's are around 5K now.

The combination of the down hill of the crown, the strong pull of 1st gear at 5K rpm's, and the turn itself, is causing the car do two things. It's rolling to the right a little. Not much, but more than I have experienced in the car to date. The right rear spring is really compressed, and the front left corner(drivers side) is raising up an alarming amount. I've never had the front of a car lift that high before.

The whole time, the car is continuing to accelerate, and I'm realizing I'm out of my comfort zone, and sort of just along for the ride at this point. I made my 1 to 2 shift as I was just in my lane, and that event allowed the car to settle down. That shift took place at about 3,500 rpms, so once again, the car took off, but this time, in a controlled straight line like I was used to.

I think there's a real possibility that I would have dumped the car if it had been a GT with another 100+ horsepower.

A couple of things I learned here:
--Even though it's "just the V6", there is more than enough power there to get into trouble.
--Thankfully, I had all of the nannies on. I'm certain that traction and stability control saved my ass.
--I need to explore the higher end of the tach in a controlled manner, and not when I'm late, frustrated, and angry.


In aviation, most private pilot accidents occur around the 400 hour experience level of the pilot. This is the point where the new pilot starts to feel comfortable, and begins to stretch boundaries. I think the same applies to a more powerful automobile. At 700 miles, I'm feeling pretty comfy in the car, and came close to exceeding my abilities.

This was definitely a learning event. I think I got lucky yesterday, and the lessons that my car taught me will not be forgotten.

Tim
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yeah remember the famous line in Top Gun? "Best not to push a bad position...."....remember one minute of waiting could save you from a world of hurt
Tim, well said, and yes, with traction control off, you probably would have been on your way to a 180. This car makes surprising power as the revs go up. Glad you are committed to learning the car before you go all out.
just wait till you stay in it to till the top of 3rd! I will say that wait till you try the v8, the six is not underpowered/or a slouch the v8 deserves respect.
I've had my car since 10/31/12 and have put nearly 4k miles on it already... I'm still not getting crazy with it.. slowly pushing the envelope to learn how the car responds in different situations... My old car (a 94 Miata with a lot of suspension mods) - I knew it like the back of my hand.. I had done about a half dozen track events (not quarter mile, but a REAL race track, a 3 mile road course) with it, as well as 6 years of daily driving .. I knew EXACTLY how it would respond to just about any input.. but moving up to a 305hp Mustang was a big jump.. so I'm taking it easy and slowly getting to know her.. Ford did a really good job on these cars!!
Glad to hear all is well. I'm more like the pilot who barely qualifies for his license then slinks off into dead air space to pull F-16 combat maneuvers in a sandpiper cub. When I first got my Mustang I went playing in the rain in open secluded areas just to see where she breaks loose and how she behaves. I did this several times over. I'd also pulled some pretty batty stuff in different weather and (once again very secluded) environments. I'm nutty that way, but I wanna know what my limits are before I have to learn in a pickle. It's a wonder I'm not dead, but at least I have a firm grasp on how not to push her, especially around other vehicles.
I haven't driven a new 305 hp V6 yet, but I can attest that the GTs can also deliver performance greater than your skill set if you are not careful.

Yesterday some dipstick in a late 80s Shiddy 4wd Extended cab tried to cut me off on an on ramp. I made my passenger turn white as a ghost but mashing the pedal put me about 3 car lengths in front of him before you could say "Chevy." I'll admit the maneuver was a little too exciting, but I'm sick of the local dumbshits that don't know how to merge on our shared on/off ramps... fall in behind as you are decelerating to let the cars entering get out of your way as they accelerate.

And if you don't, be prepared to see what a Mustang can do! :bigthumbsup

PS OP, Bonus points for descriptive visual aids! That bird's eye view let me totally made me understand what kind of location you were dealing with. Not fun at all.
yea as a new driver myself it was a big jump from a 170 horse nissan truck to a 305 horse sports car. Needless to say I have messed around with out stabil on and well both times I came close to kissing her good bye. oh and the third time I did it at the track and almost spun the car on the track.
Ive gotten into a 180 just with TC off. I have done two spins in a parking lot on purpose. Everyonce in a while if it is late and no one is around I will slide a corner... as in roll past stop sign look both ways, then roll back, the get into first and mid turn punch it with no TC... Feel back end kick out and let off throttle and she comes right back. Have i learned the limits of the car yes... can I correct the high risk stuff.. no can I correct some things... yes i can.
Im planning on taking a high perf driving school using my car imo it will be a life saver
but good story OP and now ya know ;)
When i get in my cars, the Traction Control comes off immediately. i never drive with it on. What would be the point. :hihi:
^^^ what could go wrong.....:?:

or leave it on after reading 11Red's t/c thread......:?:
I highly recommend signing up for a local SCCA sponsored begginners autcross. They will give you some training, but more importantly, you can find the limits of your car...and beyond. Legally.:winks
I highly recommend signing up for a local SCCA sponsored begginners autcross. They will give you some training, but more importantly, you can find the limits of your car...and beyond. Legally.:winks
New Jersey motorsports park, has a all day program I'm looking into taking. I've never road raced on a course before. All my father and I did was drag racing, I know I have a good foundation. I can drive good, and have gotten myself out of stuff that most people would've wrecked. I just want some good training via an instructor. I'm looking to go during this upcoming summer, to a class. Just like others have said, I want too learn my car more. This car doesn't act like any other mustang I've owned. It's surprised me a few times, when I was being less watchful. It can catch you off guard, it builds power really quick. Faster then most cars do normally.
During my flight training, I was the guy that as soon as I was released to fly solo, I practiced high-performance take-offs and stalls in our club's Cessna 150.

Same with my car... I've pushed the boundaries so many times, I have a good grasp of how much I can push her.
just wait till you stay in it to till the top of 3rd! I will say that wait till you try the v8, the six is not underpowered/or a slouch the v8 deserves respect.
I couldn"t agree with you more on your above statement, it"s all about the word respect.
my other toy is a 65 replica cobra with 475 hp and 2200 lbs weight.
it reminds me all the time, disrespect me and i WILL kill you I thing my 2011 gt would kill me also maybe just not as fast
Well my car is the fastest one I have driven (daily) by far, and I have messed up a couple times taking turns with my foot in the gas like my old car (Nissan Altima) and I spun out once or twice but was able to correct it. Ive found that With tc/stabilitrak off anything other than going straight and mashing the gas abruptly will lead to the car losing traction very easily.

One Time it was raining and I was merging onto the freeway in second gear so that I could get to freeway speeds easily. I was at 4200 rpm or so, the onramp was a circle, and as my wheel was turned at a slight angle to get on the freeway. The car lost traction, rear end broke loose, and i went careening into the side of the road. i corrected the wheel to the opposite side and got the car semi straight but it was still sliding. thankfully stabili trak kicked in and stopped the slide and i regained control of my car. that was the worst situation I've been in to date with my car and it really taught me to be more careful because it all happened so quick and I had no clue that it would slip how it did. Before I would drift through those on ramps , now no more hah


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Well my car is the fastest one I have driven (daily) by far, and I have messed up a couple times taking turns with my foot in the gas like my old car (Nissan Altima) and I spun out once or twice but was able to correct it. Ive found that With tc/stabilitrak off anything other than going straight and mashing the gas abruptly will lead to the car losing traction very easily.

One Time it was raining and I was merging onto the freeway in second gear so that I could get to freeway speeds easily. I was at 4200 rpm or so, the onramp was a circle, and as my wheel was turned at a slight angle to get on the freeway. The car lost traction, rear end broke loose, and i went careening into the side of the road. i corrected the wheel to the opposite side and got the car semi straight but it was still sliding. thankfully stabili trak kicked in and stopped the slide and i regained control of my car. that was the worst situation I've been in to date with my car and it really taught me to be more careful because it all happened so quick and I had no clue that it would slip how it did. Before I would drift through those on ramps , now no more hah


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When I traded in my '10 camaro lt, I was leaving the dealer with my new 5.0 and as I turned onto the street and accelerated as I normally did in the camaro then I realized I wasn't going anywhere because my tires were spinning like crazy. It takes a little time go get used to more power :smilie
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