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Where can I get a nice Mustang license plate frame that is Texas legal? The Houston cops have already ticketed a few of my co-workers for having a license plate frame that covers a portion of the Texas on top of the plate.

Any websites that carry some nice frames would be nice. Bought my wife a 2005 V-6 Convertible for X-Mas.
 

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Ron,

Pep Boys has simple chrome frames that don't cover the "TEXAS" part for either $6.99 or $7.99 each (can't remember exactly). See photo.
Bill
 

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Tickets for blocking part of the word TEXAS? What a load of BS. Don't cops in TX have anything better to be worried about? Lame.
 

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It was actually pretty funny when the law passed. One of the local news teams went out side the city court building and stood out there trying to interview judges that still had plate frames that covered up the writing on the tag.

Blue Vert, the idea behind it is to actually be able to identify the state the tag is from. I am not saying that I agree with the ordinance, but I do kinda understand. Hell, some of these frames you see now days you can barely read the tag number, much less anything else on the tag.
 

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As long as the tag number and the registration sticker (in most states) are visible, I don't see the problem that need to be solved.

If it's to tell whether or not it's a Texas tag, I'm thinking the big picture of Texas in the middle is a good clue.

Also, who cares what state it is from unless you are pulling them over, in which case you will be handed the registration....or am I missing something, like "geographic profiling"...

I know it's not a big deal, but I just think that laws like this are a complete waste of time and money.
 

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I don't agree with the law either. I just try to follow them.

Any other websites that sell Texas legal license plate frames? Looking for a nice one to compliment my wife's new ride.

Thanks for the Pep Boys idea, Bill.
 

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Regarding license plates in Texas...

Has anyone heard if the requirement for having a front license plate has been dropped yet?
 

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Regarding the Texas front license plate law...IT'S STILL IN EFFECT!:sosad:

How else will the police and toll authorities get revenue from those that illegally use the toll way:winks
 

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To Texas: front license plates? why? is that so i can read a vehicles tag in case i pull someone over on the highway who was driving in reverse?:laughlitt

stupid law. never understood it. all it does is cause people to have to make the front of thier cars less attractive. thank god OK doesnt require that.....:eyebulge:
 

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Prisoners used to make our license plates and now that they are in political office they make us do this out of respect. :rolleyes:
 

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To Texas: front license plates? why? is that so i can read a vehicles tag in case i pull someone over on the highway who was driving in reverse?:laughlitt

stupid law. never understood it. all it does is cause people to have to make the front of thier cars less attractive. thank god OK doesnt require that.....:eyebulge:
Now, GTNOS, you can't say having a front plate wouldn't be useful. I run front plates all the time...you can run them on the MDT/MDC and not have to turn on someone to get it. It is also useful for "bolo's" when you are looking for a specific vehicle and they may be coming at you. They're useful when you turn on someone that was speeding and get a quick look at the plate...so when you catch up you know you have the right car. They are also a good target for the lidar :winks .

Not sure what Texas or OK is like but we have so many plates in Ohio...they are sometimes difficult to identify. Especially for citizens trying to identify them. For example, in Ohio we have the following plates: Veteran, Military, POW, FOP, Breast Cancer, NFL(2), MLB(2), NHL, MLS, Ohio Collegiate Plates (there are 25 of them), Bald Eagle, Eagle Scout, Ducks Unlimited, Eastern Star, Freemason, Future Farmers, Lake Erie, Leader In Flight, Mahoning River, NRA, Ohio Cattlemans Assoc, Ohio State Parks, Ohio Zoo, Perry's Monument, Pets, Pro Football Hall of Fame, Rotary, Scenic Rivers, Share The Road, Smallmouth Bass, Smokey Bear, Toledo Harbor Light, Walleye, White Tailed Deer, Wild Turkey.
Then being in the Tri-State area (Cincinnati, OH) we have Kentucky and Indiana plates do deal with, as well. Those states don't have the front plate requirement though.

Having a thick frame around your plate covering up your plate...what purpose does it serve? So you are upset about having to get one that is a little thinner. I must admit that the TX plates are very easy to identify though...even being in Ohio.
 

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Not sure what Texas or OK is like but we have so many plates in Ohio...they are sometimes difficult to identify. Especially for citizens trying to identify them. For example, in Ohio we have the following plates: Veteran, Military, POW, FOP, Breast Cancer, NFL(2), MLB(2), NHL, MLS, Ohio Collegiate Plates (there are 25 of them), Bald Eagle, Eagle Scout, Ducks Unlimited, Eastern Star, Freemason, Future Farmers, Lake Erie, Leader In Flight, Mahoning River, NRA, Ohio Cattlemans Assoc, Ohio State Parks, Ohio Zoo, Perry's Monument, Pets, Pro Football Hall of Fame, Rotary, Scenic Rivers, Share The Road, Smallmouth Bass, Smokey Bear, Toledo Harbor Light, Walleye, White Tailed Deer, Wild Turkey.
Then being in the Tri-State area (Cincinnati, OH) we have Kentucky and Indiana plates do deal with, as well. Those states don't have the front plate requirement though.

Having a thick frame around your plate covering up your plate...what purpose does it serve? So you are upset about having to get one that is a little thinner. I must admit that the TX plates are very easy to identify though...even being in Ohio.
Yea, Texas kinda has more than one plate also. This is the list to choose from on the TXDOT web site.

COLLEGES/UNIVERSITIES
Austin College
Baylor University
Lubbock Christian University
Prairie View A&M University
Rice University
Sam Houston State University
Southern Methodist University
Southwestern University
Stephen F. Austin State University
Sul Ross State University
Texas A&M University
Texas A&M University, Commerce
Texas Christian University
Texas Southern University
Texas State University
Texas Tech University
University of Houston
University of Mary Hardin-Baylor
University of North Texas
University of Saint Thomas
University of Texas at Arlington
University of Texas at Austin
University of Texas at El Paso
University of Texas MD Anderson Cancer Center
West Texas A&M University


MILITARY/VETERANS
Airborne Parachutists
Armed Forces Reserve
Congressional Medal of Honor
Desert Storm Veteran
Disabled Veteran
Distinguished Flying Cross Medal
Enduring Freedom Veterans
Former Prisoner of War
Gold Star Mother
Korea Veteran
Legion of Valor
Marine Corps League
Operation Iraqi Freedom
Pearl Harbor Survivor
Purple Heart Recipient
Texas Guard
Texas Wing Civil Air Patrol
U.S. Air Force
U.S. Army
U.S. Coast Guard
U.S. Coast Guard Auxiliary
U.S. Marine Corps
U.S. Navy
Vietnam Veteran
World War II Veteran


MISCELLANEOUS
Antique Vehicle
Classic Auto
Classic Motorcycle
Classic Travel Trailer
Classic Truck
Emergency Medical Services
Former Military Vehicle
Parade Vehicle
Peace Officer (To Protect and Serve)
Personalized
Radio Operator
State Capitol
Texas Constables
Volunteer Firefighter (Certified Firefighter)


ORGANIZATIONS
4-H
Air Force Association
American Quarter Horse Association
Animal Friendly
Be A Blood Donor
Big Bend National Park
Big Brothers Big Sisters
Boy Scouts of America
Coastal Conservation (Redfish)
Cotton Boll
Ducks Unlimited (Waterfowl and Wetland Conservation)
El Paso Mission Valley
Fight Terrorism
Girl Scouts
Go Texan (Texas Agricultural Products)
God Bless America
God Bless Texas
Houston Livestock Show and Rodeo
I Love Texas (Texas Commission for the Deaf and Hard of Hearing)
Keep Texas Beautiful (Don't Mess With Texas)
Knights of Columbus
Lone Star Proud for Kids (Volunteer Advocate)
March of Dimes
Marine Mammal Recovery
Native Texan (Daughters Of The Republic Of Texas)
Organ Donor
Professional Fire Fighter
Read to Succeed
Red Grapefruit (Texas Citrus Industry)
Share The Road
Smile Texas Style
Space Shuttle Columbia
Special Olympics Texas
State of the Arts (Texas Commission on the Arts)
Texans Conquer Cancer
Texas Aerospace Commission
Texas Lions Camp
Texas Master Gardener
Texas Music
Texas Parks and Wildlife Conservation (Bluebonnet)
Texas Parks and Wildlife Conservation (Horned Lizard)
Texas Parks and Wildlife Conservation (Largemouth Bass)
Texas Parks and Wildlife Conservation (White-tailed Deer)
Texas Reads
Texas State Rifle Association
Texas Young Lawyers (And Justice for All)
Texas.-It's Like a Whole Other Country (Texas Department of Economic Development)
United States Olympic Committee (Olympic Spirit)
United We Stand
Urban Forestry
YMCA


PROFESSIONAL SPORTS TEAMS
Dallas Cowboys
Dallas Mavericks
Dallas Stars
Houston Texans
 

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WOW!

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Anyone have a website for a legal Texas license plate frame that will conform to Texas law?

Any Texas peace/police officer comments would be welcome as well.

This post has nothing to do with how good or stupid this law is or about whether a front license plate is required in Texas (it is).

Can I stay legal with a notched license plate frame that keeps "Texas" fully visible but covers the artwork below (the horse and cowboy, the shuttle.....)? I've written the Tx Dept of Public Safety and am awaiting an answer. I will be glad to share the information when I receive it.
 

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Ron R. said:
Can I stay legal with a notched license plate frame that keeps "Texas" fully visible but covers the artwork below (the horse and cowboy, the shuttle.....)?
Yes. They don't care about the artwork, all they care about is being able to tell what state it is from.
 

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No front plate... yet

My '06 Torch red 'vert GT arrived just before T'giving. When the metal plates arrived I put the rear one on but couldn't bring myself to ugly-up the front. So for now, I'm bare in the front. I see lots of bare front Texas cars driving around (the Houston area), and I'm hoping to just blend in (yeah, right. LOL)
Anyway, I'm easy to spot. Top down and big 'ole "stink" eatin' grin.
Still having probs w/ the Shaker500 and MP3 disks.

Speed thrills, it's boredom that kills.
 

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Here's the Public Information Officer's response to my e-mail inquiry this week. To cut to the chase, the numbers and letters and State of Texas must be visible. Covering the artwork is questionable (not by the TxDPS) and up to individual local law authorities.



---- Original Message -----
From: "PIO - Texas DPS" <
[email protected]x.us>

Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2005 9:18 AM

Subject: RE: License Plate Frames



Senate Bill 439, passed during the 2003 regular legislative session, dealt

with altered or obscured license plates. It amends Section 502.409 of the

Transportation Code as follows:

(a) A person commits an offense if the person attaches to or displays on a

motor vehicle a number plate or registration insignia that:

(6) has an attached illuminated device or sticker, decal, emblem, or other

insignia that is not authorized by law and interferes with the readability

of the letters or numbers on the plate or the name of the state in which the

vehicle is registered.

The new language could affect license plate brackets, borders or frames if

they interfere with the "readability" of the state where the vehicle is

registered. If this is the case, it could be ticketable offense. DPS does

not ticket if the frame only covers artwork, but other law enforcement

agencies may have different policies.

DPS policy and interpretation are not binding on law enforcement agencies

around the state. Interpretation may vary from agency to agency.

You can view the law in the Texas Transportation Code at

http://www.capitol.state.tx.us/statutes/tntoc.html. The text of the law is

also copied below:

§ 502.409. WRONG, FICTITIOUS, ALTERED, OR OBSCURED LICENSE PLATE.

(a) A person commits an offense if the person attaches to or displays on a

motor vehicle a number plate or registration insignia that:

(1) is assigned to a different motor vehicle;

(2) is assigned to the vehicle under any other motor

vehicle law other than by the department;

(3) is assigned for a registration period other than the

registration period in effect;

(4) is fictitious;

(5) has letters, numbers, or other identification marks

that because of blurring or reflective matter are not plainly visible at all

times during daylight;

(6) has an attached illuminated device or sticker, decal,

emblem, or other insignia that is not authorized by law and that interferes

with the readability of the letters or numbers on the plate or the name of

the state in which the vehicle is registered; or

(7) has a coating, covering, or protective material that:

(A) distorts angular visibility or detectability;

or

(B) alters or obscures the letters or numbers on

the plate, the color of the plate, or another original design feature of the

plate.

(b) Except as provided by Subsection (f), an offense under

Subsection (a) is a misdemeanor punishable by a fine of not more than $200,

unless it is shown at the trial of the offense that the owner knowingly

altered or made illegible the letters, numbers, and other identification

marks, in which case the offense is a Class B misdemeanor.

Public Information Office

Texas Department of Public Safety

-----Original Message-----

Sent: Monday, December 19, 2005 11:00 PM

To: PIO - Texas DPS

Subject: License Plate Frames

I understand there is a Texas law which prohibits a license plate frame from

covering certain parts of the license plate. This includes the "Texas" at

the top of the license plate and any numbers or letters.

My question is:

Can a license plate frame cover any portion of the lower license plate's

artwork (the cowboy/horse, the shuttle...)?

Please forward my inquiry to the appropriate department. I appreciate your

assistance and look forward to a timely reply.



 
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