[Hazey]

... maybe it doesn’t matter anymore? And Ford just needs to leverage the Mustang name as long as it can?

Ding ding ding! Nailed it.
The MachE may be a fine electric crossover and if a 4 door Mustang is in the works, it will probably be a fine sport sedan. Like most other new transportation appliances however, the biggest thing that separates them from their competition is image.

 

[coyote1]

Ding ding ding! Nailed it.
The MachE may be a fine electric crossover and if a 4 door Mustang is in the works, it will probably be a fine sport sedan. Like most other new transportation appliances however, the biggest thing that separates them from their competition is image.

That ‘image’ being youthful vigor…. even if now the realm of a bunch of old codgers like us. lol

I’m approaching 60. I’ve stated here before that Mustang was nowhere on my radar in the past, and I’ve now been driving 45 years. I always wanted fun cars to drive, but I also always wanted very practical cars. My 2009 Impreza hatchback with 5 speed manual fit that bill perfectly.

It was purely by accident, an unplanned trip to Florida, that I ended up with my Mustang convertible. Had to go there for family business, at the rental pickup counter the woman asked if we wanted to upgrade from our midsize sedan and my wife, who previously hated the wind in her hair, unexpectedly blurted YES!, and the experience of living with it for a few days was wonderful. So we bought one.

 

[ONEZ ST]

Seems if Ford wanted to leverage anything they would have used their consistently top selling F150 name on an electric 4 door SUV.

 

[Blaque Diamond Wheels]

For good and bad, the future is electric.

Unfortunately most manufacturers seem inclined to change the shape of cars to an “electric car”, rather than electrify the cars people like. Then again, the overwhelming majority of customers are buying SUVs so maybe it doesn’t matter anymore? And Ford just needs to leverage the Mustang name as long as it can?

Renewable energy is something that people have always looked into. Just so happens that we really love ICEs and discontinuing them can disappoint us. But using the Mustang name for other cars is another debate 😂

 

[eelstrebor]

Looks like there are EV kits to replace ICE. Expensive, though, but the prices are expected to drop in time.

Meet The E-Crate Motor From Ford: The Eluminator

Ford taunts an electric crate-powertrain solution, which will be revealed at the upcoming 2021 SEMA show in November.

www.hotcars.com

 

[crjackson]

Looks like there are EV kits to replace ICE.

Yeah, there’s an earlier post about it, but I can’t find it. That’s the last thing I would ever do anyway.

 

[Blaque Diamond Wheels]

Looks like there are EV kits to replace ICE. Expensive, though, but the prices are expected to drop in time.

Meet The E-Crate Motor From Ford: The Eluminator

Ford taunts an electric crate-powertrain solution, which will be revealed at the upcoming 2021 SEMA show in November.

www.hotcars.com

There are even electric motors that look like V8 blocks. They intend those for hot rods

 

[JBTrucker]

I'm 61 and bought my first Mustang ,it's just a V6 don't know may upgrade to a 5.0. Many of the members in Mustang club are my age and older retired with newer higher end Mustangs some own more than one

 

[johnachak_5607]

One probable reason Ford expanding the Mustang name to EVs (and possibly a 4-door sedan) is that the average age of Mustang owners is on the rise.

FORD MUSTANG BUYERS ARE GETTING OLDER, AND THAT COULD BE A PROBLEM

MC&T sat down with Jim Owens, Marketing Manager for the Ford Mustang, to discuss the demographics of the average buyer of the muscle car.

www.musclecarsandtrucks.com

Ford Mustang Buyers Are Getting Older
“The demographic is, yeah, they’re getting older,” said Owens. “The baby boomer generation that remembers the 60s fondly… it isn’t substantially getting larger, but it’s more about that psychographic, that type of personality that buys the Mustang, and that’s not age dependent.”

Now that isn’t to say that the Ford Mustang isn’t interesting to younger people. We’d argue that part of the reason that muscle car owners are getting older comes down to the price point at which these things trade hands. An EcoBoost Mustang isn’t terribly expensive by any means, but we all know that it is the V8-powered models that drive enthusiasm. A base model GT now starts at $36,120, which may be a hard pill to swallow for those entering the workforce or starting their families. Add in higher insurance premiums and things get pricey quick. And while a Ford Mustang is surely not entirely impractical, the two-door coupe isn’t as accessible as similarly priced sedans and crossovers. Ford is aware of this, and even refers to the Mustang in terms that highlight this issue.

The Ford Mustang Is A Life Stage Vehicle
“Mustang is a life stage vehicle… there’s a time in your life where a Mustang just isn’t that practical for you,” said Ownes. “Now, a Mach-E can change that… it’s more of a life stage. You come into it, then go to what you need for your life, then come back into a Mustang later.”

It seems that some folks are missing out on that early stage of ownership that Owens is referring to, and are instead only buying sports cars later in life. That could be problematic for muscle cars as we move forward. Without getting younger people interested in or behind the wheel of these cars, keeping them around will be harder to justify. Apparently Ford wants the Mustang Mach-E to be an every man’s car. Sorry, but that doesn’t really “scratch the itch” for this Mustang enthusiast.

Everyone I've seen driving the Mustang EV is a 39 ish to change of lifer. We "older folks" Want the real Mustang we know and love.

 

[eelstrebor]

Sorry to disappoint you, but, no one I've spoken to in my age group is even vaguely interested in that battery powered suv-ish thing. Mostly Turbo coupes or convertibles. Also many GT's and 350's. Leave the electrics to the younger generation that wouldn't know a fun car it it hit them in the head. I am in the 65 age group. We were raised with American muscle.

I saw a 70 year old woman driving an Mustang Mach E here. I should've asked her why she bought one. Or maybe it was her sons car.

 

[Blaque Diamond Wheels]

I saw a 70 year old woman driving an Mustang Mach E here. I should've asked her why she bought one. Or maybe it was her sons car.

Maybe she likes crossovers better than coupes. Who knows?

 

[ONEZ ST]

I guess the reports of these 8, 10, and 12 speed auto trannys are underrated. According to a youtube mechanic, American built ATs don't have long life and that it's risky to flush the AT or even drain the oil pan. I suppose that I could go back to a stick but I prefer the AT.

Whether it is Ford-GM 10R80 in the newer Mustangs, or the Chrysler torqueflite designed by ZF, in my Charger, servicing is not at the forefront of US automaker's minds. Why? I have no idea.

In the case of the ZF 8HP70 badged as the torqueflite, ZF has defined intervals for servicing the transmission at 80,000 -120,000 kilometers (50'000 to 77,000 miles) or 8 years. However, Dodge says its lifetime. I follow ZF schedules and service my 8HP per their recommendation and replace the filter and refill per complex instructions. Expensive - yes because ZF fluid is pricy and the filter is integral with the transmission pan. Modern transmission shift patterns change with a touch of a touchscreen going from street to track mode, or can be paddle shifted and subjected to stresses not experienced previously. Something that did not escape German ZF, but apparently it did with the domestic OEM that uses it in their vehicles.

In comparison, Ford feels automatic transmission servicing at 150,000 miles in the Mustang is sensible. I think its a recipe for drive to fail and have always replaced the filter and replenished fluid in my Mustang GT at 75,000 mile intervals. Never had a problem doing that. Expensive - no, and easy to do on the Mustang.

So don't give up on the automatic because an OEM recommends servicing when its too late like Ford. Just take care of it on a sensible schedule and never flush an automatic which is often a back-flush. Transmissions do not need an enema.

 

[Braindead]

Yes, was actually looking at new Corvettes (then) when I bought my Boss a decade ago now. It was the side pipes that caught my interest plus the somewhat rarity. Had a ‘67 Clear Water Aqua Fastback in ‘67 and now a ‘13 (bought in ‘12). But this time around it’s just because I could. Always wanted a car I DIDN’T have to drive daily (retired decade now). The ‘67 was a daily and with growing family, naw. So next had a ‘69 road runner, big back seat and trunk for groceries.

Had a garage (car & 1/2) out in the field whereas I kept an ‘87 Corvette and traded one day. Mustang fit right in after that, just never was a Corvette person it seems. Still have those flashbacks to ‘67 and only saw one ‘70 Boss ever back then but liked them. But you know it’s when you want- you can’t afford. When you don’t care you can or do. Boss willed to grandson, he can’t wait, oh well. Will try for photo again, some I-Cloud problem with that this week.

Regards, Rich

 

[Braindead]

Picture success. Only sidepipes I know that show are the Kooks, straight out. Factory aren’t so visible and looks like bad exhaust leaks on a cold day.

 

[momarlon]

I bought my first Mustang in 2012; a 2010 Mustang V6 coupe, and my friends asked if it was a "midlife crisis". My reply was that if it was, I would have bought a Shelby. The airbag inflator recall made me trade that Mustang in for a 2016 V6 coupe. 3 years ago, I traded that one in for 2019 Ruby Red GT Premium, and I haven't looked back.

Marlon's 2010 Mustang

• momarlon
• Sep 19, 2013

More pictures of my 2010 Mustang
4.0 liter V-6
Ingot Silver

2016 Mustang V6 coupe

• momarlon
• Dec 25, 2018

Pics of my 2nd Mustang, a V6 coupe.

2019 Mustang GT

• momarlon
• Dec 21, 2018

2019 Mustang GT - Ruby Red

 

[JamesBenedict]

A new Mustang is not required to have fun. Many older Mustangs in good condition are available for under $4K for V6 and $5-6K for V8. I would buy with no more than 100K miles. That is about 1 of 20 available. There is always about 50 for sale in FL. As for a V8, that is cool, but not many race on the street like in many years past.

 

[Braindead]

Think my fun days came and went through the ‘80’s. Newness of Boss long gone, an eye opener over to Mechanic Falls but too busy driving to notice anything (even thumbs up or down, don’t care). The old women seem to like Mustangs, but I’m old too LMAO. No resto required with that for certain.

My ‘87 Corvette wasn’t that bad but the money I would put into it would far exceed what it could ever be worth. And after owning a decade or so- actually began to not like the looks of them anymore. Way too many junkers around and way common here in ME. Always seeing a C-4 for sale in somebody’s driveway even still.

Gonna try for a photo, see if I can do

 

[JamesBenedict]

Your Corvette beats driving a SUV or four door post car.

 

[eelstrebor]

I've always drooled over the Corvette and Mustang but I'll "settle" for a Ferrari or Lamborghini. I may be past my prime but I still like sports cars. But the practical side of me convinced me to buy a 4x4 SUV, also, for those snowy and icy days - not to mention that the family is more comfy in the SUV.

 

[Blaque Diamond Wheels]

I've always drooled over the Corvette and Mustang but I'll "settle" for a Ferrari or Lamborghini. I may be past my prime but I still like sports cars. But the practical side of me convinced me to buy a 4x4 SUV, also, for those snowy and icy days - not to mention that the family is more comfy in the SUV.

The C8 Corvette might just be the right car for you. Give it a few more years, not that SUVs ain’t fun at all.