300 HP is at the flywheel. The 275 is at the wheels. :scratchchin
Every company advertises flywheel numbers, except maybe exotics. Subaru might also do bhp too. Flywheel is always higher.ford advertises it as 300 hp.. im hearing 275 ish.. is that true? and if so.. wtf how is that possible to drop 25 horsepower, or what is ford doing so that they can advertise at 300 hp.. or was it never 300 and they are lieing.. can someone just explain it all to me please?![]()
Understand that the steel bearings in the differential, the extremely over weighted 2 piece stock drive shaft and stock windage tray that puddles the oil on to the crank causing uneccasary resistance can be replaced with an aluminum drive shaft, ceramic coated bearings and an efficient windage tray to let loose about 15 of those horses. But thats if you feel that route would be a good choice given the cost of aluminum drive shafts and the durability of ceramic coated bearing. Beleive it or not and Ive tested this theory but a larger oil pan with a good draining windage pan can relieve allot of that HP loss with properly draining the oil away from the crank as to not constantly slop it back on to the crank leaving more oil and resistance to drag down the performance. Even though its not behind the flywheel once that energy is dispersed all the way through to the crank shaft it has a cause and affect starting from the pulley all the way back. Weve played with this Idea at the shop and tested it with an actual gain of over 300 on a stock motor with a stock tune. But again thats Aluminum crank pulley to the larger capacity oil pan with a good windage tray, to a aluminum groung flywheel to a aluminum drive shaft to a differential with ceramic coated bearings, all in all about $1600 for the total. Is it worth it, sure if you have money to blow but that $1600 is a good chunk for saving towards a supercharger, hands down the best possible mod dollar per HP you can get.ford advertises it as 300 hp.. im hearing 275 ish.. is that true? and if so.. wtf how is that possible to drop 25 horsepower, or what is ford doing so that they can advertise at 300 hp.. or was it never 300 and they are lieing.. can someone just explain it all to me please?![]()
BHP and flywheel horsepower are the same thing.Every company advertises flywheel numbers, except maybe exotics. Subaru might also do bhp too. Flywheel is always higher.
And as low as 235 and as high as 285.a stock gt on the dyno puts out around 250-260 at the wheels
Unless of course the manufacturer is misleading the consumer by over rating their motors like the OP was suspicious of. I remember Mazda being sued by Miata owners years back because the motors werent putting out near the claimed power. If I pay for X amount of horsepower, I expect the car to produce it.and the bottom line is..... it's all just numbers.... just go drive the car and have fun, and if it's not fast enough, open up the wallet and start modifying!!
The manufacturer was up front and honest on their claim to horsepower produced. The consumer also has some responsibility to understand what they are buying. The horsepower rating standard adopted 30 years ago was to help insure that the consumer was not being misled. Unfortunately, most of us are not going to pull the engine and dyno it to check it.Unless of course the manufacturer is misleading the consumer by over rating their motors like the OP was suspicious of. I remember Mazda being sued by Miata owners years back because the motors werent putting out near the claimed power. If I pay for X amount of horsepower, I expect the car to produce it.
You've seen a totally stock GT put 285 at the wheels??? My 2009 GT/AOD is putting down 290rwhp with a C&L CAI, Steeda Pulley, BBK LT's, BBK X-Pipe w/ cats, and a custom 94 octane dyno tune by Lidio at Alternative Auto. If I remember correctly it did 262rwhp totally stock.And as low as 235 and as high as 285.
I've heard of one that hit 285. I personally have seen 282.You've seen a totally stock GT put 285 at the wheels??? My 2009 GT/AOD is putting down 290rwhp with a C&L CAI, Steeda Pulley, BBK LT's, BBK X-Pipe w/ cats, and a custom 94 octane dyno tune by Lidio at Alternative Auto. If I remember correctly it did 262rwhp totally stock.