yeah, not to start another one of those "ford should have threads" but they should have pulled a little more power out of the 4.6 and 4.0. 350 even would have been nice in the 4.6. what is the 4.0? 210? pretty weak... my wife's '02 honda odyssey minivan has a 240 hp 3.5l vtec. sucks that a minivan has more hp than a V6 stang. ford should be able to get a little more hp out of that six too...