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Hey guys,

I am right about to order the Mustang II conversion kit for my 1968 Mustang Coupe off of speedwaymotors.com. I am planning on using tubular control arms, power rack, 2 inch dropped spindles, and a coil-over setup kit. The only thing is, where do I buy the motor mounts to mount a 302 V8 to the cross-member kit?

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I am having a shop install it for me, so am I going to have to tell them to custom fabricate me some motor mounts to mount the 302? I really want to try and save money here, so having the shop custom make the mounts will probably cost another arm and a leg than this is already going to cost me.

Can I just order the mustang II mounts from rock auto that go for like $20 a piece?
 

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Why bother with a mustang 2 kit?It changes too much stuff handles worse and changes the load points on the front end of the car.
 

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$20 bucks?

I would get the mounts for that money. If they fit a small block to mustang 2 or fit small blocks on 79 to 88 fox body they should work.I had a mustang 2 and a 79 fox in the 80's and both took the same mounts for a 302. Different oil pan though.Mustang 2 takes a front sump, fox takes double sump/ rear sump type.
 

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Andrew,

Thats not good at all! I definitely do not want to sacrifice and make the car worse at anything, especially since I am spending sooooo much money on it!!

How are you certain it will handle worse??

I mean I can only see doing this Mustang II kit if I was planning on putting in a modern motor in the future, but I think I am probably just going to drop in a 1988-94 fox motor with EFI instead. In that case it wouldn't pay off if I actually lost steering and performance for all that money with the Mustang II......

I want the Mustang II because you get ALL 3 upgrades for like half of what it would if you bought them separately for the car.

The coil-over suspension kit is about $2,500..... The power rack n pinion kit is at least $1,500.... Where as the Mustang II is only $2000... Plus $2000 for the install. So they both come out to about $4,000 but, the mustang II lets you be able to put in a modern motor in the future should you ever plan to.

But if it's gonna make me actually lose performance.... well now you got me wondering...
 

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Matt that's strut on spindle its only good in a drag car sucks for handling.The problem with the mustang 2 kit is its based off a 30 year old design and its one size fits all which never works.Why it handles worse is the a arms are shorter so are the springs vs the stock stuff longer a arm and longer spring the more travel the better the ride and handling will be.Give this site a good reading DazeCars, Suspension 101 A efi 302 from a fox body will bolt right in now.A mod motor is a huge job its huge and falls flat on its face over 400hp with out a blower.I would run a ls1 over any mod motor and a ls1 is no bigger then a 351w.There is a way to get a mod motor and handling but its not cheap Griggs Racing Products
 

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well i guess that the new car manufacturers need to know that their strut suspensions are only good for drag racing and not good at being dependable good road handling and comfort suspension. sorry didnt know he was building a road race track car. Sorry Ford sorry chevy hondas mazdas jeeps and everything in between that has struts. Your only good at the drag strip.:)
 

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That tci kit is still a mustang 2 design.Newer cars use a strut on spindle design to save space and money.There is 2 different companies that make kits for the newer mustangs to change it over to a upper a arm.Have you looked at Street or Track Front Bilstein Coilover System I like there's best out of all the coilover kits the upper mount is thick and being a bilstein coilover if can be replaced later on easy.I haven't used a randalls rack and pinon but i have heard good things about them tho.
 

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Andrew,

If I do plan on going the way of keeping the shock towers and installing lets say a coil-over kit, is it necessary to reinforce the shock towers.

My shock towers do not look like they are in bad shape, but I would like to reinforce them anyway to keep them from cracking especially if I spend all this money to keep them.

You know any kits that are sold to reinforce the towers? Or will an auto shop need to custom reinforce them their own way?
 

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Cool thanks,

What do you think of these guys?

RRS :: Classic Vintage Ford Mustang Disc Brake and Coil Over Strut Kit :: Vintage Rack and Pinion ::

Also what about FatMan

..::FatmanFabrications::..

Two new kits I just found out about.


I also need a rack N pinion, so maybe fatman is a good choice?

Unless these strut kits are no good for the street and Road course I will not bother with them. I want more like the kit you showed me from street or track. I want a daily driver street car, that I can also use as a performance sports car at a road course whenever I feel.
 

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Have you drove a fox body or newer mustang?They all are strut on spindle its ok on a normal car but lacks handling to me.The rrs kit i don't like the spindle and brakes are not factory pieces.The fat man fab one is better its all factory pieces but the escort rack im not sure on the ratios on it.One you might like Welcome to Jim Meyer Racing Products Inc.- Mustang it bolts in and designed for the car but i can't find a price for it you might have to email them or call them.
 

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Yea that looks like a nice kit also. If it really is around $3,500 with the rack then it could be a good deal.

However, as you mentioned, the street or track kit looks like a good idea for what I am looking for.
 

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What would be a good rack to use for a street/auto-cross setup using the Street or Track kit. Is there a ratio I should look for here?

I want power, but I also do not want the car to oversteer on the highway when I am switching lanes. I want to at least cruise at 90 if I plan to at some point take a road trip with the Mustang.
 

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Most of the bolt on rack and pinion kits are a quick ratio,Look at them all see which one fits your budget and will they clear long tube headers or not some do some don't.A manual rack wouldn't be that bad these cars are not that heavy.The only time you can really tell between power and manual is slow speed turning or parking.
 

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This looks great. I'm considering it for my 69 Cougar. Worth a few extra bucks but Momma always says " you get what you pay for". And she is right. Don't cheap out. If you have to wait to save up the few extra bucks then do so. You'll be glad you did. Best of luck.
 
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