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Hello everyone, as you know the Mustang's braking system is not :nono: very powerful, so I decided to rebuild it a bit and now I present my work :bounce2::bounce2::bounce2:

In the first time I buy the Gallardo calipers, afther this I need to buy the new inox rotor because the original carboceramic rotors are damage!
Then I buy the wilwood rotors from USA, 16" for the anterior and 14" for the rear
I made the "campane" (i don't know the corrispondent word) in Inox for install and change the rotors offset
I made the staff for install the nel lamborghini calipers
I buy the hydraulic hand brake and I adapted it for the stock lever
We have install the new hydraulic tube for brake oil
... and now my stang brake soo good!
 

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dam i would never think off putting lamborghini calipers on my car but i do have to say it looks good. Also how much did this cost?
 

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Did you allow for float on the rear caliper? The rear axles float in and out on the stock 8.8 rear end this can cause knock back of the pads on fixed rear calipers. Knock back is when the pads are pushed back into the caliper so that when you put your foot down the peddle goes to the floor till you push the pads back out.

I put Porsche Brembos on my rear end I made brackets for them that allow the calipers to float in and out along with the axles.

I am curious how you put hydraulic parking brake? Does the lambo caliper have a piston just for the parking brake? This mechanical brake isn't working for me.

 

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Did you allow for float on the rear caliper? The rear axles float in and out on the stock 8.8 rear end this can cause knock back of the pads on fixed rear calipers. Knock back is when the pads are pushed back into the caliper so that when you put your foot down the peddle goes to the floor till you push the pads back out.

I put Porsche Brembos on my rear end I made brackets for them that allow the calipers to float in and out along with the axles.

I am curious how you put hydraulic parking brake? Does the lambo caliper have a piston just for the parking brake? This mechanical brake isn't working for me.

Yes, now I have the problem in the pads especially when I drive roads with many bends because the stock hubs installed on the Mustang are too small for the weight of the car and bend the brake pads away too.
Next step I'd like to install one bigger brake pomp.

The Hydraulic brake are connected directly in the rear calipers, the Gallardo mount 2 calipers (brake and park) in the rear but I have install only one and collegate the hydraluc pump of the hand brake!

Someone advise me where I can buy the bigger control arms for the anterior and bigger hub?
 

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Speacking about the cost I told you that in Italy are more expensive made this brake kit, because when we buy the parts out the europe the item are taxed of 30%

This is the cost of single parts (in dollars) whit today change

- Gallardo calipers (6 pot anterior and 4 posterior + park calipers) 2100$
- Wilwood rotors 1800$ + 375$ shipping + 623$ italian taxes
- Hydraulik Hand brake 390$
- Steel material for made belt 560$
- Installation 100 hours of work!

I hope to have been exhaustive
 

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Yes, now I have the problem in the pads especially when I drive roads with many bends because the stock hubs installed on the Mustang are too small for the weight of the car and bend the brake pads away too.
Next step I'd like to install one bigger brake pomp.

The Hydraulic brake are connected directly in the rear calipers, the Gallardo mount 2 calipers (brake and park) in the rear but I have install only one and collegate the hydraluc pump of the hand brake!

Someone advise me where I can buy the bigger control arms for the anterior and bigger hub?
I think you are better off if you figure out a way to make the calipers float along the same axis as the axles. Your mounting braket would be two piece with a pin bushing setup between the hub and the caliper.

Was the hydraulic hand brake a kit of some type? Was there a layout of the lines and an explanation how the hand master fits in with the foot master? My mechanical parking brake doesn't hold.

But my floating calipers are working great.

 

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Speacking about the cost I told you that in Italy are more expensive made this brake kit, because when we buy the parts out the europe the item are taxed of 30%

This is the cost of single parts (in dollars) whit today change

- Gallardo calipers (6 pot anterior and 4 posterior + park calipers) 2100$
- Wilwood rotors 1800$ + 375$ shipping + 623$ italian taxes
- Hydraulik Hand brake 390$
- Steel material for made belt 560$
- Installation 100 hours of work!

I hope to have been exhaustive


Wow! thanks for talking me out of this.:heha:
 

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sounds pricey but it looks like it'll stop you in one heck of hurry for sure!
 

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I think you are better off if you figure out a way to make the calipers float along the same axis as the axles. Your mounting braket would be two piece with a pin bushing setup between the hub and the caliper.

Was the hydraulic hand brake a kit of some type? Was there a layout of the lines and an explanation how the hand master fits in with the foot master? My mechanical parking brake doesn't hold.

But my floating calipers are working great.

Good job, but it's complicated?

If I understaind the problem are only in the rear axle for removal of the pads?

You know where I can buy the HUB more bigger than stock and lower control arms?
 

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I use the J&M control arms all four of them I like the poly ball joint for it smooth low tension articulation. But that wont help your issue.

The back axles float in and out about .015" or .380mm. This happens every time you go around a corner. As the weight against the tires moves the axles first in and then out. When that happens with your fixed rear calipers the pads are pushed back in so that when you apply the brake the pads have to be moved a much greater distance then would be normal. That is why your pedal goes to the floor and why when you pump the brakes it comes back up. You have to float the rear caliper not put a stiffer mounting bracket that will only make it worse. My caliper is free to move along the same axis as the axles .030" or .762mm.
 

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908SSP is on the money. The axles “float” in the rear end .015” and if the calipers are mounted solid to the rear end tubes the axle movement will compress the pads/pistons (opening them up). Which will give you a soft initial pedal because the pads have to “pump” back up until they touch the rotors again.

You either need full floating rotors so they won’t knock the pads back or the rear calipers have to be able to slide on their mounts at least .015”.
 

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Do you still have pics of the hydrolic.handbrake and fitments? Would love to see how the hydraulic handbrake looked in an s197.
 

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Do you still have pics of the hydrolic.handbrake and fitments? Would love to see how the hydraulic handbrake looked in an s197.
This thread is 3 years old so I wonder if the OP still has the same car.
 
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