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I am needing some schooling on some tuning. I'm not a noob when it comes to the basics of it, but I have never been a Mustang owner until this year. The car isn't my daily driver...in fact I take it out a few times a month and DRIVE it, cruise, show, etc. I am researching my bolt on options etc, and I'm hearing about so many different tunes with the SCT. BRENSPEED, BAMA, LETHAL PEEFORMANCE, STEEDA...I like the cammed tune sound, but I know it's idle only which is cool. What about performance from all of these options?

Any advice is welcome. :smilie
 

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I have both Bama and Brenspeed. They are both awesome. Others like Evolution performance, AED, Steeda are also great tuners. I dont think you'll see much of a difference in between.

AED seems to be getting popular as they are the only one who investigates your stock data log first and build tune on it. Although other tuners argue that it is not necessary to do that for simple bolt on mods, it is an interesting approach. Also keep in mind AED costs $225 whereby you could be better off paying Bama $150 and get free tunes FOR LIFE!

The only one I am skeptical about is Lethal performance. I read too many horror stories about Jon Lund tunes. #8 failures, driveability issues etc. yeah everyone will say he is a legend and this and that but.. it is just my gut feeling and from what i read so far. I just dont trust the guy.

One last note on Cammed tune, yes it sounds great but many people removed it after having it on for about a month or two. It completely destroys your CATs over long term and it is recommended that you mod your car with offroad pipes if you wanna run cammed tune. The sound is awesome but people complained about petrol smell from the exhausts and fumes etc. I was a big fan of it too.. but decided never to go down that road.
 

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AED seems to be getting popular as they are the only one who investigates your stock data log first and build tune on it. Although other tuners argue that it is not necessary to do that for simple bolt on mods, it is an interesting approach. Also keep in mind AED costs $225 whereby you could be better off paying Bama $150 and get free tunes FOR LIFE!

One last note on Cammed tune, yes it sounds great but many people removed it after having it on for about a month or two. It completely destroys your CATs over long term and it is recommended that you mod your car with offroad pipes if you wanna run cammed tune. The sound is awesome but people complained about petrol smell from the exhausts and fumes etc. I was a big fan of it too.. but decided never to go down that road.
I've been a very happy AED customer for 6+ months so far. Started with a BBR tune. It was a nice upgrade over stock. After about 3 months, got very curious about AED because of all I read. As good as BBR was over stock, AED is that much better than BBR. Shaun's customer service is the best, period! He's always responsive and will answer ANY questions you have, even if you have 100 of them. He worked with me over the weekend and got me my final tunes on a Sunday. His lope tune is pretty awesome. It was an extra $50 - and yeah - it's a novelty. I run it from time to time, but not all the time. It's fun during the summer when out cruising. Shop around and do your homework, but at least consider AED. Shaun also does tune upgrades at N/C whenever you make mod changes.
 

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I am needing some schooling on some tuning. I'm not a noob when it comes to the basics of it, but I have never been a Mustang owner until this year. The car isn't my daily driver...in fact I take it out a few times a month and DRIVE it, cruise, show, etc. I am researching my bolt on options etc, and I'm hearing about so many different tunes with the SCT. BRENSPEED, BAMA, LETHAL PEEFORMANCE, STEEDA...I like the cammed tune sound, but I know it's idle only which is cool. What about performance from all of these options?

Any advice is welcome. :smilie
Saltydawg,

I'm confident that no matter what company you decide to go with you'll be very happy with your tune. You're talking about all of the best tuners in the world!

Here's a little bit about what Bama has to offer. For every Bama Tune we ask you 19 questions about your specific Mustang, including your unique mods and style of driving. This info helps us write custom tunes from the ground-up for your Mustang's mods that will give you the most horsepower that we can safely deliver. We're also constantly developing our tunes! Between our 14 different Project Mustangs and tons of street/track and dyno testing (on our in-house Dynojet 224xLC), we're looking for any minor tweaks to be made that can benefit you guys. We're also part of Fords Technology Transfer Program & Work very closely with Ford to insure that all of our tunes are perfect!

Another great benefit to ordering with Bama is our free tunes for life program. When you purchase your device through us you're automatically enrolled in this program. Any time you need a revision or add a new modification, just hit us up and we'll get you a new tune sent out within 24 business hours! Our Ghost Cam tune is also included in this program :).

This is just the beginning of what Bama has to offer you. I know you'll be extremely happy with our tune! Let me know if you ever have any questions!

-Dan
 

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You also have other options than just what you mentioned for tuning, DiabloSport products have been tuning Mustangs since 2000, we've been around the block with these cars. All of our devices accept custom tunes just like what you said you were looking for in your post (a dyno tune etc..).

We have a couple different options that may be interesting for you mainly the inTune and Trinity (which is also tunable by Bama)...

Here's some info on those...

inTune for the 11+ Mustang

Trinity

Let me know if you have any questions on the options we offer as well! :)
 

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I have both Bama and Brenspeed. They are both awesome. Others like Evolution performance, AED, Steeda are also great tuners. I dont think you'll see much of a difference in between.

AED seems to be getting popular as they are the only one who investigates your stock data log first and build tune on it. Although other tuners argue that it is not necessary to do that for simple bolt on mods, it is an interesting approach. Also keep in mind AED costs $225 whereby you could be better off paying Bama $150 and get free tunes FOR LIFE!

The only one I am skeptical about is Lethal performance. I read too many horror stories about Jon Lund tunes. #8 failures, driveability issues etc. yeah everyone will say he is a legend and this and that but.. it is just my gut feeling and from what i read so far. I just dont trust the guy.

One last note on Cammed tune, yes it sounds great but many people removed it after having it on for about a month or two. It completely destroys your CATs over long term and it is recommended that you mod your car with offroad pipes if you wanna run cammed tune. The sound is awesome but people complained about petrol smell from the exhausts and fumes etc. I was a big fan of it too.. but decided never to go down that road.
Thank you for your input on this. I am planning on running an off road H-pipe, so I won't have the cat issue that often. Seems like the options are narrowed down a bit now. Which tune, of the ones you have, show a better all around performance?

08darkcandgt...I have a manual tranny.
 

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I've been a very happy AED customer for 6+ months so far. Started with a BBR tune. It was a nice upgrade over stock. After about 3 months, got very curious about AED because of all I read. As good as BBR was over stock, AED is that much better than BBR. Shaun's customer service is the best, period! He's always responsive and will answer ANY questions you have, even if you have 100 of them. He worked with me over the weekend and got me my final tunes on a Sunday. His lope tune is pretty awesome. It was an extra $50 - and yeah - it's a novelty. I run it from time to time, but not all the time. It's fun during the summer when out cruising. Shop around and do your homework, but at least consider AED. Shaun also does tune upgrades at N/C whenever you make mod changes.
Good to know! Are you still in Carrollton? Not that far from me. If you don't mind shoot me a pm with Shaun's info. I'd like to talk to him.
 

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I am needing some schooling on some tuning. I'm not a noob when it comes to the basics of it, but I have never been a Mustang owner until this year. The car isn't my daily driver...in fact I take it out a few times a month and DRIVE it, cruise, show, etc. I am researching my bolt on options etc, and I'm hearing about so many different tunes with the SCT. BRENSPEED, BAMA, LETHAL PEEFORMANCE, STEEDA...I like the cammed tune sound, but I know it's idle only which is cool. What about performance from all of these options?

Any advice is welcome. :smilie
Our cam idle tune has the same performance as our non-cam idle tunes and is very similar except for the idle.

Let me know if I can help you with anything. :bigthumbsup
 

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Bama is the only one the gives you warranty against cylinder 8 failure.
I think companies have learnt a lot about coyote since it came out. I remember earlier tunes were always spot on at 13ish AFR thru rpm range. It was discovered that the cooling on number 8 wasn't as efficient as other 7 cylinders. If you ran #8 at high rpm with 13 AFR it could overheat independent of engine overall temperature. Looking at latest tune results everyone seem to have dropped their AFR to 11.8-12 instead and cylinder 8 problem seems to have vanished. Still, Bama is the only company that backs up their service with warranty.
 

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Bama is the only one the gives you warranty against cylinder 8 failure.
I think companies have learnt a lot about coyote since it came out. I remember earlier tunes were always spot on at 13ish AFR thru rpm range. It was discovered that the cooling on number 8 wasn't as efficient as other 7 cylinders. If you ran #8 at high rpm with 13 AFR it could overheat independent of engine overall temperature. Looking at latest tune results everyone seem to have dropped their AFR to 11.8-12 instead and cylinder 8 problem seems to have vanished. Still, Bama is the only company that backs up their service with warranty.
Great info! :bigthumbsup
I'm sure BAMA corrected that, and I heard they also started offering the novelty cammed tune.
 

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Bama is the only one the gives you warranty against cylinder 8 failure.
I think companies have learnt a lot about coyote since it came out. I remember earlier tunes were always spot on at 13ish AFR thru rpm range. It was discovered that the cooling on number 8 wasn't as efficient as other 7 cylinders. If you ran #8 at high rpm with 13 AFR it could overheat independent of engine overall temperature. Looking at latest tune results everyone seem to have dropped their AFR to 11.8-12 instead and cylinder 8 problem seems to have vanished. Still, Bama is the only company that backs up their service with warranty.
Thanks a lot!!! You helped me understand the whole #8 issues. I don't know much about cars but I want to learn more and more. I don't even know what a converter is when people talk about trannys. lol:bigthumbsup
 

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The whole #8 issue was a freak thing that can happen with any other car. Every machine has it's weak points. Just becaues #8 or whatever cylinder blows doesn't mean the engine is weak. It just means there's a variable to consider. Unfortunately, sometimes they're just pushed to the limit and things go boom.

We live on the planet Earth. Unfortunately, as much as the hipsters and general internet users would think so, NOTHING will ever be perfect including Wall Street, my inability to stop farting first thing in the morning, and yes, modern engines including the Ford Modular Coyote. The Coyote motor isn't the only engine ever in the entire universe to have popped from a tune.

Jesus, we are getting 30 or so horsepower and considerably more torque out of email tunes an no other modifications. We all should feel quite generous. LS2's get maybe 20 to the ground, TOPS without other modifcations. And that is from a very aggressive tune.

I can't stand it when people so "oh my gawd guyz! They wile E coyote is maxed out from the fakterree!! Downt tewn ur piston thingy!" Nonsense. Better drivability, better idle stability, better throttle response, better F/A ratios, better power deliver, killing skip shift, and adjusting redline. Best money I've spent on my car thus far. How many satisifed customers are out there with tunes? I'm one of them...
 

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I think the purpose of the forum is to help one another learn and understand past/present issues or claims. Most people enjoy reading things like that. No sense in getting frustrated when someone makes a comment or starts a thread, is there?

My take? If I get tired of hearing about something, I simply move on and let others talk amongst themselves. I'm not a typical Internet 6'5" 250lb guy who can bench press a car. Can't we all just get along?
 

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As has been said. Brenspeed and Bama are both excellent tuners. ive had both, and they are worth it.
 
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